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This is the eighth edit of this post but I think I've isolated my problem. While booting with two monitors plugged in, Windows will, about half the time, crap out and refuse to play video (I get audio and one or two frames a second) or games (surprisingly, they get better framerates but the audio is jumpy). Both monitors are plugged in to the DVI ports on my XFX 7850 Core Edition 2 GB. Unplugging one (old monitor) got me four reliable boots in a row. Unplugging the other (new, good 1080p monitor) led to half the boots being screwed up. Is there anyway to fix this? I like having Rainmeter or cheats and walkthroughs on the second monitor while gaming so I don't have to hit Alt+Tab every other minute. If I have to plug the old one back in, I can, but it's a pain to do it every single time. I can switch the connections from DVI to DVI-I > VGA and HDMI > HDMI on the old and new monitors, respectively, but I'd need an adapter for DVI to VGA and HDMI has some scaling issues.


Original post: I tried to reinstall driver software because I was lagging like hell in a game on its absolute lowest settings. According to AMD OverDrive, my GPU is not installed. XFX has the absolute worst piece of trash website I've ever seen. No drivers whatsoever, or they're buried so deep you just can't find them. Their disc that shipped with the GPU does nothing for me; it just installs Catalyst Control Center, which I can't launch because it requires .NET framework to work. My motherboard apparently recognizes it though, as I'm booting with both screens active, but Windows refuses to recognize it. I can't do a system restore because apparently that got disabled. My shadow copies apparently don't exist either. All I have is a generic VGA adapter apparently.

EDIT: Yesterday everything was running just fine. Suddenly video will not play, either off the hard drive or from Youtube. Don't get me started on games. No updates were done after the new driver software either.

EDIT 2: I tried unplugging every USB device from the motherboard and everything from the I/O panel but the mouse. Nothing. All audio devices too. Nothing. No background programs could be causing it either.

EDIT 3: I did nothing at all, other than play a game that relies on the CPU and browse the web. Videos are playing again. What.

EDIT 4: This why we can't have nice things. Videos won't play smoothly AGAIN. I know it's not a hard drive issue because I streamed something through the network off that drive onto my laptop to watch it and the audio plays just fine.

EDIT 5: I haven't fixed it and it switches between reliable and crappy on boots. However, I did find an indicator: if Windows Aero is active, then it's good. If it's the default theme, then it lags.

EDIT 6 (hopefully last): I had been getting a black screen for a minute before it got to the login screen but after it displayed the "starting Windows" animation. This isn't a hardware issue; my SSD is faster than that. I had F@H installed for a bit but it started glitching and wouldn't launch so I uninstalled it. Turns out it was still set to start on boot. I also found a patch for a game and four instances of another game (which was glitched beyond playing anyway) set to run on start-up as tasks. I uninstalled the glitchy game completely and disabled all instances of the start-up tasks. Finally, I had decided earlier to try out ASRock InstantBoot which came packaged on a disc that shipped with the motherboard. I uninstalled that as well, though I'm not sure it did anything. Now I'm booting into Windows in the less than 20 seconds it should take with Windows Aero active, meaning it plays video. Future readers, you're welcome. I hate it more than you when somebody just says, "nvrmnd its better" and abandons the thread forever with no explanation at all.

EDIT 7: Wow. Apparently the previous attempt to fix this did nothing at all after all.
Edited by CynicalUnicorn - 7/19/13 at 8:25am
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Can you tell us what AMD card you talking about? Is that the 7990 on your sig?

At any rate, just go to AMD site and download the driver from there - no need to go to XFX website at all.

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx

Also, do not think you need .NET for drivers to function, but may need it for Catalyst control center to function. When you download the drivers from AMD site, it should automatically install .NET. If not, just google or bing .NET and download it.
Edited by Awaz - 7/15/13 at 7:28am
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Went there, downloaded it, tried to run and install drivers, and failed. Found the most recent .NET Framework download from Microsoft, downloaded that, and tried again. CCC installed itself plus the newest drivers. Said game is no longer lagging (and you know you have a problem when the title screen doesn't work)
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bump because new problems
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What new problems are you facing? Can you explain again?
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Quote:
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What new problems are you facing? Can you explain again?

The original one (lag) is back and some new ones (play video at 2 FPS) popped up. I reinstalled the drivers with zero success.
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Bump. I really hope I've figured out the problem this time.
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