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Hey OC.net

I bought a Samsung 840 Series 120 gb SSD and installed windows 8 on it. Now, I timed the boot time, and it takes 21 seconds to boot.
My laptop, which has a WD Scorpio Blue 750gb HDD, has a read and write speed of +- 80 - 90 MB. My SSD has a read speed of 540 MB, but my laptop only takes 13 seconds or less to boot.
Is this normal?
If it isn't, I would like to "format" my SSD and completely reinstall windows on it.
I know you may not format or defrag your SSD because flash mem does not need to be formatted and it can cause permanent damage to your SSD, but how do I need to clear my SSD and be able to reinstall windows on it?

Thanks in advance!
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Does that include BIOS/POST? Also, did you have AHCI selected instead of IDE?

The easiest way is to do a 'quick format' which will just dump the file table, but not write to all of the blocks.
Alternatively/preferably, you could blow away your partition from the Windows install disk and achieve a similar result.
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Hey OC.net

I bought a Samsung 840 Series 120 gb SSD and installed windows 8 on it. Now, I timed the boot time, and it takes 21 seconds to boot.
My laptop, which has a WD Scorpio Blue 750gb HDD, has a read and write speed of +- 80 - 90 MB. My SSD has a read speed of 540 MB, but my laptop only takes 13 seconds or less to boot.
Is this normal?
If it isn't, I would like to "format" my SSD and completely reinstall windows on it.
I know you may not format or defrag your SSD because flash mem does not need to be formatted and it can cause permanent damage to your SSD, but how do I need to clear my SSD and be able to reinstall windows on it?

Thanks in advance!

Sequential performance does not matter that much during boot... it's the random.

It also matters what devices and drivers that need to be registered and loaded.

No, don't bother reformatting... just understand the boot process better... what is being loaded?
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I think only windows 8 is being loaded, and my gpu and mobo drivers
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I think only windows 8 is being loaded, and my gpu and mobo drivers

No, there are a lot more devices being loaded like Ethernet, USB, audio, HDDs, etc. Then there are different operational modes that the motherboard has to check.


The BIOS and boot process is a mess.
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Hey OC.net

I bought a Samsung 840 Series 120 gb SSD and installed windows 8 on it. Now, I timed the boot time, and it takes 21 seconds to boot.
My laptop, which has a WD Scorpio Blue 750gb HDD, has a read and write speed of +- 80 - 90 MB. My SSD has a read speed of 540 MB, but my laptop only takes 13 seconds or less to boot.
Is this normal?
Yea, like others stated, POST takes most of the time. And Boot speed isnt the only advantage to SSDs.
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If it isn't, I would like to "format" my SSD and completely reinstall windows on it.
I know you may not format or defrag your SSD because flash mem does not need to be formatted
Yes it does. Without formatting the drive there is no way for a OS to be installed on it lol. Windows automatically will quick format your drive during install.
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and it can cause permanent damage to your SSD, but how do I need to clear my SSD and be able to reinstall windows on it?

Thanks in advance!
Neither will cause permanent damage, where did you hear that? All defrag does on SSDs is rewrite data when it doesnt need to. And depending on the amount rewritten performance may be slightly less after temporarily, yet most likely it will not be noticeable.
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Yea, like others stated, POST takes most of the time...

Especially if one has an HBA card like I do. Mine (LSI 9211-8i) is slower than UEFI.
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...And Boot speed isnt the only advantage to SSDs...

For me, boot time is only a weekly event since my rig runs 24/7 so I don't worry about it. Program startup speed on an SSD is what I really like.
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...Neither will cause permanent damage, where did you hear that? All defrag does on SSDs is rewrite data when it doesnt need to. And depending on the amount rewritten performance may be slightly less after temporarily, yet most likely it will not be noticeable.

An occasional defrag (no more than once or twice a year) won't cause enough writes to noticeably shorten SSD life. Having automatic defrag turned on could which is why SSD programs like Samsung's SSD Magician turns it off for you.
     
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