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Hi friends,

I know this topic has already been beaten to death ten times over but I would like everyone's opinion on my particular situation and needs.

Recently my Razer BlackWidow Ultimate (non 2013 edition) has been experiencing keyboard chattering, not a lot of it, only on the I and O keys, but as person who uses the computer 24/7, it's annoying as hell. Even though I've only owned my BlackWidow for about a year, the warranty just ran out like last month, and I thought it'd be a good time to replace it anywho because the glossy finish is just too high maintenance for me to keep clean.

So along with replacing my keyboard I will also be replacing my DeathAdder (again, non-2013 edition) because it too has dirt build up problems and I have a pet peeve of liking my keyboard and mouse to match in brand and colour scheme. So I have narrowed it down to two options, the Razer BlackWidow 2013 edition where I will but purchasing the 2013 Deathadder with it as well, and the Logitech G710+ which I will either get a G700 mouse with is or use an old favourite G500 I have lying around.

Razer BlackWidow 2013 + Death Adder 2013
Pros:
-non-gloss finish all over (inculding most of the Deathadder 2013)
-nice colour

Cons:
-had issues with Razer in the past, my current BlackWidow being the most recent case
-loud, at first I really loved the Blue switches, but over time I've developed a love/hate relationship with them, love the click, hate the loud sound now :/

Logitech G710+
Pros:
-brown switches, heard this was the compromise between the nice switch feel of blues but a lot more quiet
- a lot more functionality than the Razer BlackWidow imho

Cons:
-heard general complaints about backlighting going out more often than I'd like
-apparently cheap wrist wrest
-the orange colour strip around the macro keys aren't very attractive

Now I would like your opinion! Thanks!

Edit: Oh yeah, I know these may not be the best mechanical keyboards for many of you enthusiasts but these are my best options in both because of availability in my area and because of existing peripherals that will match with them in brand and colour scheme! smile.gif
    
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post #2 of 9
My vote goes to the CM Storm Quickfire Rapid(or TK/PRO), and then choose your own custom set of keys from somewhere like wasdkeyboards

Just look at all the possibilities....


But if you're absolutely set on those two boards, I vote for the Razer. The Logitech is fugly :3

Also, you should peruse reddit.com/r/mechanicalkeyboards
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post #3 of 9
The logitech has had too many rma for those issues.
The Razer is over priced for what it has.

CM Storm Trigger is what I use. Brown switches with Red backlight. The wrist rest is also very good.
The CM Strom series keyboards uses metal backpane which helps with stability and life.
Edited by Sp33d Junki3 - 7/15/13 at 7:20pm
    
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I like my mouse and keyboard to match... personal, ridiculous pet peeve. Any other opinions? smile.gif
    
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post #5 of 9
I think my Deathadder and Quickfire Rapid match quite nicely...

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post #6 of 9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Anoxy View Post

I think my Deathadder and Quickfire Rapid match quite nicely...

Hahaha, my Deathadder glows. To be honest, I'm not too big of a fan on the look of the CM series.
    
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post #7 of 9
I've got the blackwidow ultimate from like 2012, and I love it. I'd definitely recommend it.
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Originally Posted by Asiqduah View Post

I've got the blackwidow ultimate from like 2012, and I love it. I'd definitely recommend it.
It's a fingerprint nightmare for me... and gets so dirty... That's why I'm considering the 2013 Edition, has a non-glossy finish all over so it's not a fingerprint magnet + other stuff.
    
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post #9 of 9
I'm biased, I have the G710+, have had not backlighting issues etc. I think it's important to note that the G710+ has SOME gloss, but I came down from the Das, which also had an all gloss finish. I second my opinion that you'd probably be overpaying for the Logitech considering it's quality vs. others (Filco's, older Das keyboards, Ducky's) with CM's prices being more in-line with what you should be paying for.

IMO, it comes down to your priorities. At least from what you've listed, you're comprimising the typing experience for the keyboard for appearance's sake. It sounds like MX Blues just aren't fulfilling your wants (you can't get the click without the sound). What's the point of a nice looking keyboard if you can't stand to to type on it at times? This isn't to say the Logitech wins by default (because there are plenty of MX Brown switch keyboards that could also take the nod here), but when buying a keyboard, I'm of the opinion that typing experience trumps looks to a certain extent.

You may perhaps want to consider the Blackwidow stealth edition if you want to stick to the Razer asthetic.

P.S. Logitech's RMA process is much friendlier than Razer's from my experience, admittedly I had to RMA it once because I somehow snapped the notch connecting a keycap to the switch.
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