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I'm willing to say motherboard as well. Just because there aren't any visual problems doesn't mean there is nothing wrong.

By chance, can you/did you check the back of the mobo for burn marks? Even still, probably mobo.
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I'm willing to say motherboard as well. Just because there aren't any visual problems doesn't mean there is nothing wrong.

By chance, can you/did you check the back of the mobo for burn marks? Even still, probably mobo.

True. No i haven't taken it out of the Case yet, will have to in order to salvage parts though.

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Here is the pics, i didn't see anything, but maybe you can catch something i didn't. Thanks






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I went through that with the old Dell P4's ...the components on the foxconn mobo's would short out all the time on me after a few years. On those, the IDE controllers would die and it was really frustrating. Can you just swap out the mobo with an aftermarket 775 or is HP like Dell in the respect that you need the proprietary case management connections? I have not owned a Vendor built tower in a long, long time is why I'm asking...My Raptor hdd's would kill the IDE controller in about a month! lol:)
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I went through that with the old Dell P4's ...the components on the foxconn mobo's would short out all the time on me after a few years. On those, the IDE controllers would die and it was really frustrating. Can you just swap out the mobo with an aftermarket 775 or is HP like Dell in the respect that you need the proprietary case management connections? I have not owned a Vendor built tower in a long, long time is why I'm asking...My Raptor hdd's would kill the IDE controller in about a month! lol:)

How does a HDD kill a HDD Controller? thinking.gif


-Well guys, i stocked down the PC, then it Worked! Then i started putting the Upgrades back in and come to find out....It's the CPU. thinking.gif

What could be wrong with the CPU? It's been running Stock, as far as i have had it, since the HP can't OC. Kept under 65C and Stock 1.275V. What's going on?
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From your pictures it does appear to have a bad cap, but it shouldn't cause a issue as long as no PCI-e video card is installed (the big one directly below the PCI-e 16 slot) .

Almost all of your CPU regulators are showing overheat discoloration. As they heat up the V reg noise will get worse. Try placing a large fast fan directly above the CPU (like a window fan - get that air moving). If it make the system stable, adding video card memory heat sinks to the voltage ICs should solve your problem. (the ICs I'm taking about are the 9 chips that are like Q2 Q4, and Q5(? out of focus) in the top picture.

Get the dust off your second phase, it is amazing the amount of noise dust on a voltage regulation circuit can create. A paper towel or qtips with a little rubbing alcohol works wonders. Note: Do not use scented or colored rubbing alcohol the cheapest 92% is usually the best for electronics work.

Check you socket for bad pins. A quad core needs cleaner power (all vcc and gss making contact) then a dual or single core CPU. A single core or dual core can get a way with a couple of bent vcc or gss pins.

Very gently try to wiggle the silver and purple caps. They should not wiggle and if one does it is probably bad. Those silver caps don't show bulge or leak when they fail like the black / brown ones. The dialectic is alcohol based so visible evidence is usually not left.

Apparently I was getting my motherboards confused you have a standard 24 pin Molex not the the 24 pin mini socket I was expecting. Check your power supply, If it does not have 12.8V listed as a output it is most likely a standard ATX 24 + 4 power supply. Meaning you could install a standard μATX system board like the Intel DG33TL ($55 from server supply) with out having to upgrade / replace the power supply.

Have you tried turning off the power management in the BIOS? C states can cause issues when you're next to the power edge.

Put a (small) fan on your MCH. The stock fan will cool it. You new upgrade will not, or rotate your new fan and add a shroud to force air over it .

Check your stock CPU on Intel's Ark, I bet it is a 65w CPU.
Edited by arddrea - 7/18/13 at 8:05pm
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PimpSkyline

From your pictures it does appear to have a bad cap, but it shouldn't cause a issue as long as no PCI-e video card is installed (the big one directly below the PCI-e 16 slot) .

Almost all of your CPU regulators are showing overheat discoloration. As they heat up the V reg noise will get worse. Try placing a large fast fan directly above the CPU (like a window fan - get that air moving). If it make the system stable, adding video card memory heat sinks to the voltage ICs should solve your problem. (the ICs I'm taking about are the 9 chips that are like Q2 Q4, and Q5(? out of focus) in the top picture.

Get the dust off your second phase, it is amazing the amount of noise dust on a voltage regulation circuit can create. A paper towel or qtips with a little rubbing alcohol works wonders. Note: Do not use scented or colored rubbing alcohol the cheapest 92% is usually the best for electronics work.

Check you socket for bad pins. A quad core needs cleaner power (all vcc and gss making contact) then a dual or single core CPU. A single core or dual core can get a way with a couple of bent vcc or gss pins.

Very gently try to wiggle the silver and purple caps. They should not wiggle and if one does it is probably bad. Those silver caps don't show bulge or leak when they fail like the black / brown ones. The dialectic is alcohol based so visible evidence is usually not left.

Apparently I was getting my motherboards confused you have a standard 24 pin Molex not the the 24 pin mini socket I was expecting. Check your power supply, If it does not have 12.8V listed as a output it is most likely a standard ATX 24 + 4 power supply. Meaning you could install a standard μATX system board like the Intel DG33TL ($55 from server supply) with out having to upgrade / replace the power supply.

Have you tried turning off the power management in the BIOS? C states can cause issues when you're next to the power edge.

Put a (small) fan on your MCH. The stock fan will cool it. You new upgrade will not, or rotate your new fan and add a shroud to force air over it .

Check your stock CPU on Intel's Ark, I bet it is a 65w CPU.

The CAP doesn't look like it's toast and like you said it should have nothing to do with the CPU.

Strange the IC's would be messing up after months of service with the Quad. Also the CPU fan does blow out the sides and back some to hit the IC and Regulators. I don't have any RAM sinks, i know what your talking about though.

I have dusted that spot some after i put it back together. i will keep the wiggle idea in mind.

No bent pins, checked that.

The PSU is Corsair 500W, it says 12V on the sticker.

Their are No C states, its a OEM HP/MSI Mobo.

The 1.6Ghz Single that came with the Mobo is 35W. The 2.2Ghz Dual after that was 65W, then onto a 2.66Ghz with 65W, then finally my Quad 2.4Ghz at only 95W.

If the Mobo won't run like it has been for years, then i might just sell her off and upgrade. She will run the Stock CPU, but i need more HP than that. So i don't see the need in spending money on Fans and Sinks if i can just sell her stock and she runs fine.

Thanks guys for your help.

Only thing that makes me wonder....Why did a Raptor HDD start all this if it was CPU related??
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it was probably coincidence or the feed back of the 10K motor caused the VR to be pushed too far.

All Intel firmware support C states most HP BIOS have the ability to turn on of off power management even if it does not call it C states.

Just double checked the FSM. The BIOS does not have the option for power management.doh.gif

The power supply is not the original. The HP would have the part number 441390-001 or 444813-001 and be only 250W.

I would go to the BIOS under system health and check VCC and the 12V make sure the Corsair wasn't crushed.

Good luck with the sale, that's probable the best.
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PimpSkyline
it was probably coincidence or the feed back of the 10K motor caused the VR to be pushed too far.

All Intel firmware support C states most HP BIOS have the ability to turn on of off power management even if it does not call it C states.

Just double checked the FSM. The BIOS does not have the option for power management.doh.gif

The power supply is not the original. The HP would have the part number 441390-001 or 444813-001 and be only 250W.

I would go to the BIOS under system health and check VCC and the 12V make sure the Corsair wasn't crushed.

Good luck with the sale, that's probable the best.

It could be either, but still strange.

I can't change much at all on the BIOS.

The original was a 250W, but i added a Corsair 500W for the GPU and CPU upgrades.

The PSU tested fine, as long as i don't put the Quad back in, it runs fine.

i agree, somebody who just wants to play WoW all LOW or internet browsing would get some use out of it.

Thanks.
 
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Intel i7 5820K Gigabyte X99 SOC Champion Nvidia EVGA "GTX 98" Ti 6GB @ 1452Mhz Kingston HyperX DDR4 3200Mhz (4x4GB) 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial MX100 128GB SATA III SSD (OS) Western Digital 2TB SATA III (Data) LG SATA Light-Scribe DVD+/-RW Drive Corsair H100i Pull x2 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit SP2 Vizio 40" 1920x1080 60/120Hz TV/Monitor Dell SX2210 DVI 1920x1080 Logitech G11 Gaming Keyboard  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Corsair Professional Series HX850W Rosewill Thor V2 Black/White L.E. Full Tower Case Logitech Ball What Pad? >_< 
Audio
Logitech Z4 2.1 Stereo System  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Q6600 @ ~3Ghz MSI 775 Aftermarket Mobo Nvida GTX 770 LE 2GB @ ~1,300+ 2x2GB (4GB) 800Mhz DDR2 RAM 
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