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So looking around for prices for the ROG Impact Mini-ITX ASUS is set to release, I found this board -:http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z87IPRO/#overview and now i am torn. tiredsmiley.gif



I absolutely love the colour scheme on the ROG line, and this new board is in that ugly "Yellow/Gold" on black scheme, which just looks terribad to me but thought I would see what other people thought about them.

Now i am guessing most people will go for the ROG if they intend to do a SFF Gaming Rig, but would that mean that this newer board would not be good for that? I mean it seems to have everything except the Upgraded Sound Card and the mPCIe combo card that lends it 802.11 ac WiFi and Bluetooth 4.0. Heck it even has 12+2 DiGi+ VRM which is slightly better than it ROG brother.

Thoughts anyone?
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So looking around for prices for the ROG Impact Mini-ITX ASUS is set to release, I found this board -:http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Z87IPRO/#overview and now i am torn. tiredsmiley.gif



I absolutely love the colour scheme on the ROG line, and this new board is in that ugly "Yellow/Gold" on black scheme, which just looks terribad to me but thought I would see what other people thought about them.

Now i am guessing most people will go for the ROG if they intend to do a SFF Gaming Rig, but would that mean that this newer board would not be good for that? I mean it seems to have everything except the Upgraded Sound Card and the mPCIe combo card that lends it 802.11 ac WiFi and Bluetooth 4.0. Heck it even has 12+2 DiGi+ VRM which is slightly better than it ROG brother.

Thoughts anyone?

Found your post through google. Everyday I do a z87i search within the past 24 hours. My retail store where I come from says earliest next week for the Z87i-pro. Asus Malaysia has already said Z87i boards are with local distributor. I have already placed an order with the local retailer 2 weeks ago for the deluxe board but have changed my mind 1 week ago to the pro board.. He will inform me when the board is ready and ship the whole PC. Cheaper for me to purchase everything from one vendor as I get more discount on parts and free shipping.

More about what I am doing here:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1408746/need-recommendations-on-gaming-work-htpc-steambox-pc-low-tdp-high-performance

Before this board came out, the only thing I wanted was the Z87i-deluxe. Since I'm not going to overclock PC I might as well save money towards the 770 GTX card. Then I found out that Z87i-pro has all the features I want from the deluxe but cheaper. All I need is onboard wireless (without wires like other manufacturers are doing), mini-itx board, and a good sound card. I can live with a ALC1150 card. Going down to a H87 chipset, you loose the wifi and the ALC1150 codec. Also, most motherboard manufacturers will use the highest quality components for the high end motherboards. Since I'm going to use this for at least 5 years, I want to know that the PC is still working till then.

Been building and OC PC's for the past 10 years and as far as I can see, the benefits of OC newer systems is not that great compared to older systems. I think part of this is intel's fault where the performance between Sandy bridge - Haswell remains about similar. My previous system (Q6600 OC) was almost as fast as sandy bridge i5, sure with higher TDP. I don't see the need to OC the system since most of the time, I don't use it. OC has always been a novelty for me. OC for the sake of OC and see how far I can push the PC. Run benchmarks and see difference. Only OC when I can't play games at decent quality and frame rates. The only time where OC matters is when I run mathematical apps (which require 100% CPU load, all threads, for 2 weeks 24/7 to complete the calculation). If I did not OC the Q6600, I see the PC will take about 3 weeks to finish the calculations. Since most apps which use full CPU load are single threaded, there is little incentive to go to an i7.

On the 802.11ac. It is still in "beta". Standards have not been set yet. Another reason why I downgraded to the pro board. Also this lifehacker article makes sense:
http://lifehacker.com/5988340/what-is-80211ac-and-will-it-make-my-wi+fi-faster

My router is b/g. I have a b/g/n router but it has a weaker signal strength to cover the house. I think it is due to the built in antenna's of the b/g/n router. Chances are, I will not max the bandwidth at all for now. My internet connection is 8mb on copper. Even when I had 25 mb on fibre optic, it was still within the capabilities of the .11g spec modem. As far as I can see, the modems/router technology is too fast but useless when the internet line is not on the same level. When I had 25 mb on fibre, everything was great. I'd say 8 mb-10 mb is the recommended for youtube 1080p streaming. Not worried about 4k. Don't have a monitor to view it on anyway.

The only thing preventing me from OC my new system may be the i5-4570 chip. Will I really see or benefit from a 5 sec faster compression time or 5 FPS higher with the K CPU's. Doubt it. I'd be busy multitasking using other apps anyway to even notice that.

My views are quite conservative. Hope this helps smile.gif
    
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Just got added to the Wait List for the Compact Splash, which gives a better idea of what I plan on doing here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1372677/compact-splash-watercooling-optimized-mitx-case-wait-list-open/0_100

My idea is to make a SFF Gaming machine that can be easily moved around, so one of these boards will be used in this build. Now it being aimed at Gaming I am thinking it would benefit from the ROG Board that has the upgraded Sound Card but that being said the Z87I-PRO has an extra 2 SATA ports that will may or may not come in handy. The next biggest motivator to get either of the two will be prices, as I am going to guess the ROG will incur a rather high price and if it isn't like $250 then I'll go for that one. Also more than likely I will be buying an ATI HD7970 as it is around the same price as the GTX 770 but you also get the free games with it.

Another thing is I was given a i5-3570K as a Gift and want to use it at some point, which is why I wish these newer boards were backwards compatible like the AM3+ Boards and AM3 CPU's. Also my main Gaming Rig right now is an AMD machine that I want to switch over to an Intel one so that is where I would like to use the i5, which will mean buying new components for the SFF build AND a new Board for the i5, and my thoughts for that is to use it for another project I want to take on after the SFF Build, which is a Desk Build.

And a little off topic...

Currently I am re-working my Xbox 360 HTPC mod with aa ASUS M4A88T-I Deluxe Board and this is will be done in a build log and then hopefully sold off to help fund the Compact Splash Gamer. This build has been back and forth with me for a long while now as I started it almost 2 years ago and when I first tried to do it I was using a CPU that was just to high a TDP for the Board and it was causing a lot of problems. So I then did a Rig Build for one of my friends and he paid me for it by buying me an ASUS Sabertooth 990FX board, so my Phenom II x6 was free to fly once again! thumb.gif and I never got around to re-purchasing a CPU that would work well with the M4A88T-I redface.gif which is now going to be done this weekend so I can get this mod redone properly.
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Might as well get a ROG V or a Z77i-deluxe motherboard. thumb.gif
    
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KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
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KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
MS Ergonomic 4000  Corsair TX650M Bitfenix Prodigy (Black) Japan Edition Logitech M705 
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