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Everyone else was doing it, I didn't want to be left out. Any opinions, suggestions, input, random musings, etc. are much appreciated, as always.

MOTHERBOARD:
ASUS Rampage IV Extreme LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard

PROCESSOR:
Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73930K

CPU COOLING:
NZXT Kraken X60 RL-KRX60-01 280mm Ultra Performance Liquid CPU Cooler

RAM:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 64GB (8 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL11Q2-64GBZLD

POWER SUPPLY:
SeaSonic Platinum-1000 1000W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Full Modular Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified ...

O/S DRIVE:
2x Samsung Electronics 840 Pro Series 2.5-Inch 256 GB SATA 6GB/s Solid State Drive MZ-7PD256BW

STORAGE DRIVES:
3x Western Digital RE WD4000FYYZ 4TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Enterprise Internal Hard Drive

VIDEO CARD:
2x EVGA EVGA GeForce GTX760 SuperClocked w/EVGA ACX Cooler 2GB GDDR5 256bit, Dual-Link DVI-I, DVI-D, HDMI,DP, SLI Ready Graphics Card (02G-P4-2765-KR) Graphics Cards 02G-P4-2765-KR

CASE:
Corsair Obsidian Series 900D CC-9011022-WW Black Aluminum ATX Super Tower Computer Case

SOUND CARD:
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD PCI Express x1 Interface Sound Card powered by THX TruStudio Pro

CD/DVD/BR DRIVE:
LG Black 14X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 12X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA BDXL Blu-ray Burner, Bare Drive, 3D Play Back (WH14NS40) ... - OEM


Fairly straightforward build. Plan is to use the onboard raid to throw the the 3 WD's into a RAID 5 and the 2 840 Pro's into a RAID 1. Figured two GTX 760's outperformed the 780 and I've never given SLI a shot anyway, so why not. (I'm a bit iffy on whether or not I should be using a dedicated RAID card, and if so which one to use.)

Please do let me know if I've overlooked anything or just been flat out stupid.

Thanks all!
Edited by TopGunSF - 7/17/13 at 5:49pm
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The power supply is very overkill (a good quality-made 650-750W PSU is plenty), and the 64 GB of memory will result in the Page File and Hibernation file consuming a total of about 128 GB together. Besides, will you ever need more than 8 or 16 GB?

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The power supply is very overkill (a good quality-made 650-750W PSU is plenty), and the 64 GB of memory will result in the Page File and Hibernation file consuming a total of about 128 GB together. Besides, will you ever need more than 8 or 16 GB?

You're very right about the PSU, I do realize it's complete overkill. I've had pretty bad luck with PSUs in the past, which only seems to have abated after starting to use ones rated a good 20-25% higher than what I actually needed (or thought I needed, for all I know I'm spiking well above that).

For the RAM, I run 5-6 VMs at a time so it's nice to have. The page file does get pretty huge, but I'll disable hibernation on this one.
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You're very right about the PSU, I do realize it's complete overkill. I've had pretty bad luck with PSUs in the past, which only seems to have abated after starting to use ones rated a good 20-25% higher than what I actually needed.

 

Generally though, that should only be a problem with lower quality PSUs. If you were to get a good quality-made 650-750W PSU, then you wouldn't have any problems.

 

 

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For the RAM, I run 5-6 VMs at a time so it's nice to have. The page file does get pretty huge, but I'll disable hibernation on this one.

 

Here's something I don't know: do VMs need a Page File?

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Generally though, that should only be a problem with lower quality PSUs. If you were to get a good quality-made 650-750W PSU, then you wouldn't have any problems.

True. Is there any real disadvantage to having an overpowered PSU? There's really not much price difference, especially considering the cost of the rig as a whole. Might look at swapping the PSU with a:

Seasonic SS-760XP2 ATX 12V/EPS 12V, 760W, 80 PLUS PLATINUM Full Modular certified Active PFC Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready
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Here's something I don't know: do VMs need a Page File?

Well, they'll have an internal page file, but they don't require a page file on the host system so long as they have ram to work in. If you start paging you're going to slow to a crawl.

Once again, you do make a good point though. I don't really intend to store much of anything on the SSDs, but at the same time I don't need them being destroyed by paging. Probably wouldn't hurt to swap the 64gigs with:

G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL11Q-32GBZLD

Nothing really stopping me from adding more later if need be.
Edited by TopGunSF - 7/17/13 at 6:22pm
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True. Is there any real disadvantage to having an overpowered PSU? There's really not much price difference, especially considering the cost of the rig as a whole. Might look at swapping the PSU with a:

Seasonic SS-760XP2 ATX 12V/EPS 12V, 760W, 80 PLUS PLATINUM Full Modular certified Active PFC Power Supply New 4th Gen CPU Certified Haswell Ready

 

The average efficiency can end up being lower than what's advertised and it costs more money up front - in this case, a lot more. Check out these PSUs (all from Newegg except 1):

 

 

There are more that I can recommend, but I feel that these have the most appreciable difference in price.

 

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Originally Posted by TopGunSF View Post

Well, they'll have an internal page file, but they don't require a page file on the host system so long as they have ram to work in. If you start paging you're going to slow to a crawl.

Once again, you do make a good point though. I don't really intend to store much of anything on the SSDs, but at the same time I don't need them being destroyed by paging. Probably wouldn't hurt to swap the 64gigs with:

G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL11Q-32GBZLD

Nothing really stopping me from adding more later if need be.

 

Or you could disable the Page File. ;)

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Thank you for the post! Looks like I have some more research to do.
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Or you could disable the Page File. wink.gif

The VMs wouldn't care much but I'm partial to a bit of gaming here and there as well, apparently some programs simply require a page file regardless of how much free RAM you have. Without it you either get out of memory errors or some insane disk thrashing (taking the memory off the disk causes thrashing, go figure). Googled around a bit for what just turning it down to a few dozen gigs or so would do and got mixed results between success and not.
Edited by TopGunSF - 7/17/13 at 8:33pm
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Thank you for the post! Looks like I have some more research to do.
The VMs wouldn't care much but I'm partial to a bit of gaming here and there as well, apparently some programs simply require a page file regardless of how much free RAM you have. Without it you either get out of memory errors or some insane disk thrashing (taking the memory off the disk causes thrashing, go figure). Googled around a bit for what just turning it down to a few dozen gigs or so would do and got mixed results between success and not.

 

I have no problems with it disabled, so I recommend experimenting. If you have problems, then enable it and make it like 1 GB or something just to make Windows happy.

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250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
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Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
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