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I'm planning on putting together a list of components for my dad. His desktop is pretty much dead. Most of what my parents/youngest sibling (15 year old brother) use it for is surfing the internet, email, TurboTax, Quicken, etc. With that said, I want to assembe a budget desktop that will handle these activities for several years to come.

Can I expect the list of parts below to stand the test of time, given the activities that their desktop PC is most commonly used for?

If you have any recommendations on swapping out components, what would they be? Keep in mind, I'm trying to assemble the best possible PC under a budget of $350-$450.

Also, I feel like I'm missing something from the list.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004ASW73G/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0095VPBFY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005T3GRN2/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A67GV6O/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009F1DYF8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004DDI0IE/ref=ox_sc_act_title_6?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
post #2 of 9
    Yes, you're missing what could be the most expensive part of a new computer build: Windows.

    If you want the best (most powerful) computer for the price, don't forget to shop pre-made (OEM built) computers on MicroCenter, Amazon and eBay.  When shopping for computers, I find PassMark's CPU Benchmarks page to be extremely valuable for comparing CPU processing power between AMD and Intel and their individual CPU architectures.  For instance, this $399.99 computer at MicroCenter has a CPU that scores approximately twice as high as the CPU you listed above, and has Intel HD Integrated Graphics, which is notorious for smooth HD video playback without bogging the computer down.  The main catch is that its video output is HDMI only.  Unless your Dad is doing lots of video editing or video gaming (you should have a dedicated GPU for that, so I assume not) he shouldn't notice the 4 GB vs 8 GB of RAM or 1 TB vs 2 TB of HDD.  Now, I'm not saying that you should get that particular computer; I'm just illustrating what could do by shopping around.  Also, if you're looking for a truly snappy (fast/responsive) computer, you should look into getting/adding an SSD.

    I hope that was informative! thumb.gif
 
Edited by Techie007 - 7/18/13 at 5:17pm
My desktop PC
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-3770K Gigabyte P67A-D3-B3 NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS  1x Corsair 8 GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Kingston SV300S3 WesternDigital WD10EZEX Samsung HD154UI Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Daewoo L947BK Gateway FPD1530 HTK-2001 Dynex DX-400WPS 
MouseAudio
Kensington K72400 Realtek ALC889 
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Kingston SV300S3 WesternDigital WD10EZEX Samsung HD154UI Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 
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Daewoo L947BK Gateway FPD1530 HTK-2001 Dynex DX-400WPS 
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post #3 of 9
You don't have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, or power supply listed.

I assume you already have these components on hand then?
 
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post #4 of 9
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Originally Posted by mrawesome421 View Post

You don't have a monitor, keyboard, mouse, or power supply listed.
I assume you already have these components on hand then?

    The case he listed comes with a 400 W PSU integrated. wink.gif  Almost got me, too...
My desktop PC
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-3770K Gigabyte P67A-D3-B3 NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS  1x Corsair 8 GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Kingston SV300S3 WesternDigital WD10EZEX Samsung HD154UI Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Daewoo L947BK Gateway FPD1530 HTK-2001 Dynex DX-400WPS 
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Kensington K72400 Realtek ALC889 
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My desktop PC
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i7-3770K Gigabyte P67A-D3-B3 NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS  1x Corsair 8 GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOS
Kingston SV300S3 WesternDigital WD10EZEX Samsung HD154UI Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
Daewoo L947BK Gateway FPD1530 HTK-2001 Dynex DX-400WPS 
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Kensington K72400 Realtek ALC889 
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post #5 of 9
Forget the included cheapo PSU. Get something with some shred of quality to it. His build will thank him for it.

Click the link in my sig
 
ThinkPad Yoga
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Baytrail Quad Core @ 2.16 Ghz OEM Lenovo 20DAS02X00 Intel HD Graphics 8GB DDR3L 1600 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
240GB Kingston SSD N/A Windows 8.1 Pro 11.6" IPS Touch Display @ 1366 x 768 
KeyboardAudio
ThinkPad baby... HD Audio 
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ThinkPad Yoga
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Baytrail Quad Core @ 2.16 Ghz OEM Lenovo 20DAS02X00 Intel HD Graphics 8GB DDR3L 1600 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
240GB Kingston SSD N/A Windows 8.1 Pro 11.6" IPS Touch Display @ 1366 x 768 
KeyboardAudio
ThinkPad baby... HD Audio 
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post #6 of 9
Just cause it comes with a PSU doesnt mean it sucks. Cooler Master and Antec cases sometimes come with pretty decent little power supplies. That said, the PSU in this cheap Rosewill tower is a piece of crap and you should get something with a shred of quality to it tongue.gif

If you want high quality, relatively low cost, and really high efficiency then look into one of these towers with this power supply:

http://www.amazon.com/Antec-MicroATX-Tower-Case-VSK-3000E/dp/B009LDNTKK/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_2
http://www.amazon.com/Silverstone-Tek-Micro-ATX-Mini-ITX-PS08B/dp/B00A1ZU1I0/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374195334&sr=1-1&keywords=SilverStone+PS08B

http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-CAPSTONE-Certified-ATX12V-CAPSTONE-450/dp/B006BCKDGW/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1374195519&sr=1-1&keywords=Rosewill+CAPSTONE-450


Save a little bit of money on the CPU and go with this instead:
http://www.amazon.com/AMD-A4-5300-3-4Ghz-Processor-AD5300OKHJBOX/dp/B0095VPBM2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1374195349&sr=8-1&keywords=A4-5300
Just overclock it a little bit like you would do with the other one and get it running the exact same speed. It has a stock turbo speed of 3.6GHz, you can easily make it run that speed at all times instead of only when 1 core is active, maybe even bump it to 3.7GHz on the stock cooler.



Depending on if your dad needs the space or not, it might be a better idea to change out that 2TB HDD for a 120GB Samsung SSD for the same price. But only if he doesnt need extra space. Internet, TurboTax, Quicken, a few programs, and Windows will all fit perfectly fine on 120GB of space. It is only an issue if he will also be storing a ton of pictures and little videos.
Edited by EniGma1987 - 7/18/13 at 6:04pm
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7700K AS Rock Z170 OC Formula Titan X Pascal 2050MHz 64GB DDR4-3200 14-14-14-34-1T 
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950 EVO m.2 OS drive 850 EVO 1TB games drive Intel 730 series 500GB games drive Custom water cooling 
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Win 10 Pro x64 AMH A399U E-Element mechanical, black switches, Vortex b... EVGA G3 1kw 
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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
950 EVO m.2 OS drive 850 EVO 1TB games drive Intel 730 series 500GB games drive Custom water cooling 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win 10 Pro x64 AMH A399U E-Element mechanical, black switches, Vortex b... EVGA G3 1kw 
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post #7 of 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by EniGma1987 View Post

Just cause it comes with a PSU doesnt mean it sucks. Cooler Master and Antec cases sometimes come with pretty decent little power supplies. That said, the PSU in this cheap Rosewill tower is a piece of crap and you should get something with a shred of quality to it tongue.gif

True on both counts. lol

wink.gif
 
ThinkPad Yoga
(10 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Baytrail Quad Core @ 2.16 Ghz OEM Lenovo 20DAS02X00 Intel HD Graphics 8GB DDR3L 1600 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
240GB Kingston SSD N/A Windows 8.1 Pro 11.6" IPS Touch Display @ 1366 x 768 
KeyboardAudio
ThinkPad baby... HD Audio 
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ThinkPad Yoga
(10 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Baytrail Quad Core @ 2.16 Ghz OEM Lenovo 20DAS02X00 Intel HD Graphics 8GB DDR3L 1600 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
240GB Kingston SSD N/A Windows 8.1 Pro 11.6" IPS Touch Display @ 1366 x 768 
KeyboardAudio
ThinkPad baby... HD Audio 
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post #8 of 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by Techie007 View Post

    Yes, you're missing what could be the most expensive part of a new computer build: Windows.

    If you want the best (most powerful) computer for the price, don't forget to shop pre-made (OEM built) computers on MicroCenter, Amazon and eBay.  When shopping for computers, I find PassMark's CPU Benchmarks page to be extremely valuable for comparing CPU processing power between AMD and Intel and their individual CPU architectures.  For instance, this $399.99 computer at MicroCenter has a CPU that scores approximately twice as high as the CPU you listed above, and has Intel HD Integrated Graphics, which is notorious for smooth HD video playback without bogging the computer down.  The main catch is that its video output is HDMI only.  Unless your Dad is doing lots of video editing or video gaming (you should have a dedicated GPU for that, so I assume not) he shouldn't notice the 4 GB vs 8 GB of RAM or 1 TB vs 2 TB of HDD.  Now, I'm not saying that you should get that particular computer; I'm just illustrating what could do by shopping around.  Also, if you're looking for a truly snappy (fast/responsive) computer, you should look into getting/adding an SSD.

    I hope that was informative! thumb.gif
 

He wont need to pay for windows if he chooses to use a Linux distrobution. thumb.gif
post #9 of 9
Thread Starter 
They already have a keyboard, mouse, etc. from their last PC. My siblings destroyed it before moving out by downloading a bunch of useless stuff. Now the youngest sibling has a laptop of his own and uses that, so the new PC will pretty much be my parents. The PSU comes with the case like someone noticed earlier. And I just assumed that they would transfer the copy of Windows they're currently running to the new PC since the old one will no longer be of any use. I may even canibalize the hard drive to add a second hard drive to this PC. I could potentially do the same with the disk drive, maybe even the case. Essentially, the components that don't degrade as much over time (to my limited newb knowledge).

Techie007, you've been very informative. I may switch things up a bit based on that knowledge. When I chose the 2TB over 1TB, I essentially did it because there was such a small price difference between the two, compared to the price differences between other sizes.

As for the other suggestions, I'll look into those as well. I need to talk with him and see what he's looking for as well.

Also, he's helping me pay for my wedding, so...I don't know how interested he is in spending money elsewhere right now. I just thought I'd do this for him since he's helping me out.
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