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  • 57% (4)
    MBP
  • 42% (3)
    MBA
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post #1 of 9
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this has been discussed i'm sure but i don't use apple but wifey does. her bday & our anni is coming up (day after each other) so i figured i'd buy her a new MBP (she's using a 2008 model :X ). Also she's a gamer, but we really only play LoL as of right now. We did play some Rift, SWTOR, & WoW though. So far i'm stuck between these 2 models:

Apple MacBook Pro MC725LL/A
Pros:
  • Bigger screen
  • Better vid card
  • more space
  • optical drive
  • i7? (looks like ivy i7 vs haswell i5)
Cons:
  • Outdated OS
  • Cost
  • slower HDD

Apple MacBook Air MD760LL/A
Pros:
  • Battery Life
  • Newest OS (afaik)
  • Cost
  • sd slot
  • external monitor size options
  • SSD
  • faster ram
Cons:
  • Smaller Screen
  • no optical (forgot i have an external samsung slim dvd-r, but i doubt she'd want to drag it along)

Seems like the specs are in favor of the MBA, but i want an apple users 2nd opinion.
post #2 of 9
Depends on what you are doing with the machine and preference but
Gaming (Even though not the best fit) and Production work you would normally go for a MBP.
Portable Daily Driver (Nothing Demanding) and general purpose go MBA.

RAM and HDD won't make a big difference with gaming in LoL I suspect.
You can always get a SSD and upto 16GB of ram down the line into the 17"er if you really need too quite easily. Takes 10-15 minutes do to both.

My recommendation is though unless you really want 17". I would go grab a official Refurb from Apple of the 15" MBP Retina (if they are still in stock) or a MBP 15" with 1680x1050 Screen.

Both around the same money as the 17" on Newegg but they carry the same one year factory warranty as new products which are serviceable in store (Or authorized repair) no shipping needed and are inspected at greater detail.

Less hit or miss with refurbs if you go direct versus Newegg which can be a gamble and the 90 day warranty is not the best thing when your spending 1500 on a new piece of kit.
Edited by ivr56 - 7/18/13 at 5:23pm
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Originally Posted by ivr56 View Post

Depends on what you are doing with the machine and preference but
Gaming (Even though not the best fit) and Production work you would normally go for a MBP.
Portable Daily Driver (Nothing Demanding) and general purpose go MBA.

RAM and HDD won't make a big difference with gaming in LoL I suspect.
You can always get a SSD and upto 16GB of ram down the line into the 17"er if you really need too quite easily. Takes 10-15 minutes do to both.

My recommendation is though unless you really want 17". I would go grab a official Refurb from Apple of the 15" MBP Retina (if they are still in stock) or a MBP 15" with 1680x1050 Screen.

Both around the same money as the 17" on Newegg but they carry the same one year factory warranty as new products which are serviceable in store (Or authorized repair) no shipping needed and are inspected at greater detail.

Less hit or miss with refurbs if you go direct versus Newegg which can be a gamble and the 90 day warranty is not the best thing when your spending 1500 on a new piece of kit.
sorry forgot to mention she is a web developer, graphic designer, academic tutor & gamer
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EDIT: Oops I assumed too quickly.
its an AMD Radeon HD 6750M, but its around half the mobile performance as a gt 650M.
That benches around P1200, which is far too low for its value.

the MBA would be around P1000 which is 20% slower than the MBP.
The MBA would have an ultralow voltage processor with about half the performance of the MacBook pro.
the MacBook pro would be a better choice for anything workstation, the MBA is just a light mobility device, you couldn't really game on it, and it wouldn't be very useful for graphics design.

MacBook Pro.
It has the GT 650M in it.

"Also she's a gamer, but we really only play LoL as of right now. We did play some Rift, SWTOR, & WoW
she is a web developer, graphic designer, academic tutor & gamer"

She'll be wanting a dedicated GPU in her system.
I have a alienware laptop with a GT650M, and it plays guild wars 2 at almost maxium graphics and gets around 60~70FPS on max on league of legends. I also played wow on it but I don't remember the performance.
Mind you mind did have a slight overclock to it, so your performance would be similar but slightly less.

the MacBook pro would be the most appropriate choice. an air would technically be useless because of its lack of a dedicated gpu and its ultra low voltage CPU.
Edited by FranBunnyFFXII - 7/19/13 at 8:47am
post #5 of 9
Pro no question then if she is also a developer
The i7QM will help immensely for running Adobe/Text Editors side by side without taxing the system much (Compared to a Air).
Plus the 1200p screen will help with designing for larger screens natively versus scaling/zoom.
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EDIT: Oops I assumed too quickly.
its an AMD Radeon HD 6750M, but its around half the mobile performance as a gt 650M.
That benches around P1200, which is far too low for its value.

the MBA would be around P1000 which is 20% slower than the MBP.
The MBA would have an ultralow voltage processor with about half the performance of the MacBook pro.
the MacBook pro would be a better choice for anything workstation, the MBA is just a light mobility device, you couldn't really game on it, and it wouldn't be very useful for graphics design.

MacBook Pro.
It has the GT 650M in it.

"Also she's a gamer, but we really only play LoL as of right now. We did play some Rift, SWTOR, & WoW
she is a web developer, graphic designer, academic tutor & gamer"

She'll be wanting a dedicated GPU in her system.
I have a alienware laptop with a GT650M, and it plays guild wars 2 at almost maxium graphics and gets around 60~70FPS on max on league of legends. I also played wow on it but I don't remember the performance.
Mind you mind did have a slight overclock to it, so your performance would be similar but slightly less.

the MacBook pro would be the most appropriate choice. an air would technically be useless because of its lack of a dedicated gpu and its ultra low voltage CPU.

would the 6750 be good though? is the retina + gt 650 worth the increase? nvm it has best options. hope its worth the extra $700. looks like it. i'll see what i can do. looking at this one: Apple MC975LL/A
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As a current owner of the new 2013 MBA I'd like to comment about their multi-tasking and overall performance FYI

I first bought the i7 which is a dual core ULV model with HT that turbos to 3.3 GHz and had 8 GB ram and 512 GB SSD.

I ran Parallels with Win 7 Ultimate running and using 3.5 GB ram, I ran Adobe Photoshop CS6, and Chrome with several browsers open. I must say I was very impressed. Feedback was instant with the VM and swiping between it and the rest of OSX. At one point I ran Ubuntu and Win 7 simultaneously in Parallels and it didn't hesitate a bit. I felt working in various Adobe programs it was still snappy with many programs open.

Gaming, I was able to play Borderlands 2 at the native 1400x900 res on the 13.3" and it ran decently on medium settings. I also ran D3 and SC2 campaign without issue at highest detail. Oh ya, just remembered, I ran CS:GO with medium to high detail as well without issue.

Then, before the 14 day return period came I did a full Time Machine backup, returned it, and got the base model i5 that turbos to 2.6 GHz and 4 GB ram, restored the Time Machine backup, and I must say there was a noticable difference.

What's my point? If you are thinking about the Air, don't bother with the i5 for your wife, the i7 with 8 GB RAM and 256 GB SSD is about $1550 and only available at Apple.com because it is custom. You can pretend you're a student and get $100 off btw.

The battery life is amazing, hands down. Almost 12 hrs doing web surfing, 6-7 hours if I game for a few hours straight and use Parallels and web browse for the rest.

On the other hand, the new Haswell MBP is coming out end of Summer, worst early early Fall and it will at least have a true Quad core i5, there are already benchmarks out. The i7 must inevitably surface but there's no news yet. If you can wait, get the MBP, don't buy before the refresh, it's only about a month away!

(Disclaimer, this is my first Mac, I'm a PC person and I do IT for a living) <--not a fanboy
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would the 6750 be good though? is the retina + gt 650 worth the increase? nvm it has best options. hope its worth the extra $700. looks like it. i'll see what i can do. looking at this one: Apple MC975LL/A
Absolutely worth it.
the GT650M is significantly more powerful, and a dx11 enabled card. a GT650 would allow you to play most games on medium to high or within a varation of medium to high without much issue, and still hang around 30~60FPS.
I used to play guild Wars2, WoW, League of Legends, StarCraft2, and a whole host of games on my alienware m14X R2 which has a GT650M. The MacBook pro with a GT650 would well be worth the cost.
The retina screen I don't know. I love pixel density myself but you have to evaluate if you really want that fine of a screen in such a small surface area. I'd be all for it, but some people might find it a waste because with that kind of gpu you'd be stressing good frame rates unless you downscale to like 1680x1050.

If you're doing anything with gaming, or something that needs graphics acceleration, hands down get something with a more powerful GPU. Definitely. Its one thing to have a gpu and not always need it, but its another to need gpu power, not have it and then sit back wishing you had gotten it.

edit: You might want to wait for a haswell MacBook pro. it will have better specs for a similar price overall.
post #9 of 9
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kk will do. thanks guys
her bday is end of aug & our anni is the beginning of sept, so it gives me a little time to wait. just didn't want to do this at the last minute.
Edited by _TRU_ - 7/19/13 at 10:12pm
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