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Hey guys,

They both come at pretty much the same cost, as I have no VAT. So which one should I pick? I'm favouring MDPC, as Germany is really close to me.

Also, what other tools do I need? Only the original molex pin remover? Is that all? Do I need the other pin remover from MDPC (there are two).


I'm a newbie in this, and I really want to try. I don't know if I'll be good, or if I'll keep doing it but incase I do I think it is best to get good tools right off.

Finally, I will most likely get the sleeves from MDPC (I've heard its the best, even though it is a bit more expensvie than the others), so what size and which wires specificall should I use?

Thank you in advance!
Edited by Modovich - 7/19/13 at 3:07am
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I've got both and there's very little in it. You'd be happy with either one.

The other pin removers from MDPC-X is useful for removing molex pins from the auxiliary connector and are so cheap it's worth having them.

I'm assuming you're in the EU so 18AWG, metric equivalent 24/0.2 is the wire you'll need with the small sleeve.
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I've got both and there's very little in it. You'd be happy with either one.

The other pin removers from MDPC-X is useful for removing molex pins from the auxiliary connector and are so cheap it's worth having them.

I'm assuming you're in the EU so 18AWG, metric equivalent 24/0.2 is the wire you'll need with the small sleeve.

Something like http://www.e22.biz/WI002LU.aspx#.Uek7YY0wfHw ? Also, is 16AWG not possible? I personally don't care which it is, although as I can't afford to experiment I need to know right away which one would be preferred.
Edited by Modovich - 7/25/13 at 7:24am
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I use either Rapid (2.3mm diameter) or Farnell's Pro Power (2.05mm diameter) as it's more cost effective. The Rapid wire has thicker insulation which helps 'training' the wires but makes it more difficult to use with heatshrink in which case the Pro-Power is better. For small quantities Lutro0s wire (in the UK) is fine but not cheap.

Edit: Yes, you can use 16AWG or the metric equivalent but it may prove more difficult to use for both heatshrinked and heatshrinkless depending on its thickness.

Forgot to add that you'll need a pair of decent flush side cutting pliers. I prefer the Knipex for the hardened steel blades but there are cheaper ones around but they don't last as long.
Edited by Big Elf - 7/19/13 at 7:27am
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I was told 18AWG is preferred for heatshrink, whilst 16AWG is preferred for heatshrink-less. Also I was told that the MDPC one can't crimp 16AWG? Or it can?

What should I use to take the wire isolation off? I'm not from the UK, however E22 ships to my country.


When comparing the sleeves, which ones are better?

Its so hard to decide lol, mainly because on one side I hear that one is better, and the other its this one.


I'm sorry for all the questions, I know they're stupid and annoying but I'm not in a position to play with money.
Edited by Modovich - 7/19/13 at 7:59am
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24/0.2 is preferred in the EU due to the exceptionally high (exorbitant) price of 16 & 18AWG. If you can get it a a reasonable price then 18AWG is sufficient. If you're happy to pay more then Lutro0's 16AWG wire is only 2.1mm in diameter and his 18AWG is about 1.8mm (I think). If you're trying to save money then 24/0.2 is the best wire to get.

You're not supposed to crimp 16AWG with the MDPC-X crimper is it will wear away the 'v' in the die that provides the bite. Lutro0 has modified his tool so that that probably won't happen.

You'll get good results whether you use MDPC-X or Lutro0 sleeve.

I use a modified version of the Knipex Self Adjusting Wire Stripper 12 62 180, modified because as supplied it will only strip a minimum of 6mm when ideally you want 3-4mm. A cheaper wire stripper is sufficient if not as consistent.
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post #7 of 12
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I have decided to get everything off of lutr0. I'm at $113 atm for all the tools, except wire strippers. Thanks for everything you helped me with. Also, yes 16/18AWG is indeed more expensive but to hell with it. I'll go with the flow tongue.gif
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I have decided to get everything off of lutr0. I'm at $113 atm for all the tools, except wire strippers. Thanks for everything you helped me with. Also, yes 16/18AWG is indeed more expensive but to hell with it. I'll go with the flow tongue.gif

I appreciate your order bud, if you have any other questions please let me know.


Also, BE thanks for helping him out!
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I have decided to get everything off of lutr0. I'm at $113 atm for all the tools, except wire strippers. Thanks for everything you helped me with. Also, yes 16/18AWG is indeed more expensive but to hell with it. I'll go with the flow tongue.gif

you will be VERY pleased with the crimper!. Mine is tuned to perfection.
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I hope that it's ok that i borrow your thread to ask about a wire I got (Since you're on the topic of wires in the EU).

Bought 50 meters of this 0.75 mm²/24 x ø 0.19 mm wire. I was pretty sure this would do, but can someone confirm that it's enough VA and that the rest is suitable for PSU wires?
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