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Maaan... I'm having issues with my OCing.

I can't step up to 4.7Ghz on 1.415V even.... Should i stop trying? :S

I get BSOD before i can get a test to run more than 2 minutes >,< Temps are partially fine. 85-90*C at that volt and clock.

What's your uncore set to? What kind of BSOD are you getting?
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Ring bus voltage, batch, and ram speed please. smile.gif Results charted.


1.36 turned out not to be stable enough for my liking. I could push 1.38 and probably get rock solid, but I reverted to 1.275v and 4.5ghz for now. Will play with it more in the future.
1.38 on air... somebody's going to kill me. I only had 78C on chess, which heats things up more than a game. I'd reckon I'd hit above 80C for 1.38 though. That might be a lot to take, ESPECIALLY since chess and adaptive = 0.025 more voltage.

What's your VRIN? If temps are good, you can up VRIN to 2.3 safely on air/closed loop. It can increase stability, but it does increase temps 2-3C. From what I've read on TeamAU forums, every 0.25V VRIN is equal to about 0.05V vcore.
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Maaan... I'm having issues with my OCing.

I can't step up to 4.7Ghz on 1.415V even.... Should i stop trying? :S

I get BSOD before i can get a test to run more than 2 minutes >,< Temps are partially fine. 85-90*C at that volt and clock.

You're hitting a thermal limit, so if you really want to play at 4.7ghz I don't think you can use synthetic stressing. Did you delid? That may be an option and will give you the room you need. An alternative would be, to raise voltage until you're so stable so that you do not ever crash going about your day-to-day computer operations, but not use synthetic stress test to measure stability/thermal output. Combined I think you can hit 4.7ghz, just need more voltage I think. If I were to raise mine to 4.7ghz I probably need more voltage than you.

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What's your uncore set to? What kind of BSOD are you getting?

What's Uncore exactly ? I'm not exactly checking what BSOD I'm getting, but it's just a normal one where the CPU needs more volt to handle the clock. I'll check next time i get it. (Are there other BSODs from the processor?)


And my 4770k is Delidded. Using normal paste though, gonna order the CLU now. Forgot to do that today.
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When running 3d mark physics test i get around 10500 with LLC set to level 5. With LLC set to level 6 its around 500 points higher. Is it just a matter of not enough juice?

On a seperate note whats the general consensus regarding syncing all cores to the same speed , compared to say 47 single core 46 dual 45 44 all cores? During physics on 3dmark even tho all cores are active at x43 i still get a much higer score with the cores set at fifferent ratios

I can only think that a particular part of the physics test is single threaded at some point and benefits from the higher clock?

Currently running
47 1
46 2
45 3
44 4

Mostly auto
Peaks at 1.29 vcore with a 0.07 offset
LLC at level 6. Level 5 things start going negative

Temps are around 90 on a 10 pass IBT standard run
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What's Uncore exactly ? I'm not exactly checking what BSOD I'm getting, but it's just a normal one where the CPU needs more volt to handle the clock. I'll check next time i get it. (Are there other BSODs from the processor?)


And my 4770k is Delidded. Using normal paste though, gonna order the CLU now. Forgot to do that today.

Uncore is more accurately the ring bus. Asus sometimes calls it 'cache ratio'. You can potentially crash/Bsod from an unstable uncore. Just follow my method: Manually set and keep uncore at default (34 or 35 depending on 4670k or 4770k). Once you're sure you're done with tweaking core multiplier and core voltage, that is the time to fiddle with ram settings/uncore settings. Otherwise, if you change uncore/core next to each other you'll have no idea what caused the Bsod. On top of that, your core multiplier might get restricted by the higher uncore which we don't want.

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What's Uncore exactly ? I'm not exactly checking what BSOD I'm getting, but it's just a normal one where the CPU needs more volt to handle the clock. I'll check next time i get it. (Are there other BSODs from the processor?)

You can get both x124 and x101 BSODs - if you can find out which one you are gettings (if you have Win 7 the error report that pops up when you reboot will tell you, Win 8 shows it on the BSOD screen itself but uses different terms) it can helpy ou truobleshoot. x124 errors seem to be related to cache/ring bus, while 101 errors are more likely Vcore. So if you are getting 124 errors try increasing the cache voltage (Vring) or the Digital I/O voltage (VCCIOD).
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Uncore is more accurately the ring bus. Asus sometimes calls it 'cache ratio'. You can potentially crash/Bsod from an unstable uncore. Just follow my method: Manually set and keep uncore at default (34 or 35 depending on 4670k or 4770k). Once you're sure you're done with tweaking core multiplier and core voltage, that is the time to fiddle with ram settings/uncore settings. Otherwise, if you change uncore/core next to each other you'll have no idea what caused the Bsod. On top of that, your core multiplier might get restricted by the higher uncore which we don't want.

Thanks for the info. Will try this. So 35 on my 4770k?
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You can get both x124 and x101 BSODs - if you can find out which one you are gettings (if you have Win 7 the error report that pops up when you reboot will tell you, Win 8 shows it on the BSOD screen itself but uses different terms) it can helpy ou truobleshoot. x124 errors seem to be related to cache/ring bus, while 101 errors are more likely Vcore. So if you are getting 124 errors try increasing the cache voltage (Vring) or the Digital I/O voltage (VCCIOD).

Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for this now. But this setting should be at stock, can it still cause issues?

Edit: i think it's a 101 error. Booting up now to check.

Edit 2: Didnt get a popup when booting up, but the BSOD code ended with 101... So I assume i can give up going above 4.6ghz?
Edited by Gurkburk - 7/30/13 at 10:00am
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Thanks for the info. Will try this. So 35 on my 4770k?
Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for this now. But this setting should be at stock, can it still cause issues?

Edit: i think it's a 101 error. Booting up now to check.

Edit 2: Didnt get a popup when booting up, but the BSOD code ended with 101... So I assume i can give up going above 4.6ghz?

Yup, 35 on 4770k.

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Yup, 35 on 4770k.

So should i still try to set it to 35 and try overclocking the Volt/coreclock more? Or give up that too?

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/71410276/2013-07-30%2019.58.51.jpg

That's how my bios looks with the cache voltage.. What should i do?
Edited by Gurkburk - 7/30/13 at 11:03am
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