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Yeah. I'll let Prime blend run for an hour more and then start screwing around with those settings first.

I used 1.355 Vcore on this run, but HWMonitor has it firmly at 1.376V under load for reasons unknown; it seems at any voltage this motherboard just adds a bit on top of what I put in. I dread to think what it will go up to in adaptive mode if I ever forget and run a stress test.

Yes, I noted it just recently in my guide. There are two possibilities, one is HWmonitor/info being wrong. Other being Haswell is drawing more power than you asked. I accidently stressed at 1.385v, voltage went to 1.512v. My god, my CPU has survived some serious abuse. 1.512v, 99C, etc. At least it's hardy. But yeah, you DEFINATELY don't want to run Prime or god forsake, Linpack and forget about it, especially at my voltages (1.415 now).

 

I'm of course, leaning towards the idea that Haswell is pulling more power than you ask under load. A hypothesis is ironically while the FIVR caused the socket change so it can regulate power better, it was done with mobile in mind and therefore, power savings, not fine tuned overclocking, and therefore these types of problems may be possible. This is of course, an idea and not backed by any official Intel spokesperson. BUt it's an interesting one nonetheless.

 

Bear in mind, as you up your voltage, the larger the discrepency will become. I mean, the more extra power the CPU will pull out under load. I think once you past your Vcore things can get a wee bit dicey. A bit north of your voltage I had to play with SA and Anusha's response to my voltage tweaking is right under this paragraph.

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isn't upping those voltages dangerous? i remember in the SB days, people tell not to play with the VCCSA.

Quite frankly I don't know. This is the first PC I've ever built, and I did not look into overclocking Sandies back then. Maybe some other member could chime in, that would be great. BTW: What IS SA voltage and all those other voltages?


But yes, maybe we ought to be careful with the voltages here, don't know the safe range. 
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according to asus they can be increased for stability when trying to get a higher dram o/c. They say to go incrementally by 0.05V and either + or - offset. Also, that too much or not enough can be equally responsible for instability.
now, im not doing anything with dram yet but I figured I'll chuck an offset in there for ****s & giggles

hence my post... where do i start to optmise this crude o/c a bit

btw Anusha you posted your O/C not too long ago and that really helped me because I used your settings and I got my very first stable O/C at 44x thanks to your post thumb.gif
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according to asus they can be increased for stability when trying to get a higher dram o/c. They say to go incrementally by 0.05V and either + or - offset. Also, that too much or not enough can be equally responsible for instability.
now, im not doing anything with dram yet but I figured I'll chuck an offset in there for ****s & giggles

hence my post... where do i start to optmise this crude o/c a bit

btw Anusha you posted your O/C not too long ago and that really helped me because I used your settings and I got my very first stable O/C at 44x thanks to your post thumb.gif

Well don't forget, I made an entire chart of everybody's settings in the first post for a reason, I hope it helps somebody.

 

While it is true that I had 1866 most of the time when I got those mysterious 9c bsods (which Forceman said is supposed to be memory related bsod), I did set ram to 1600 and still got the 9c bsod, with 1600 not being oc'ed at all. Unless... 1600 is too high? o.o I wonder how people run 2133 then.

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Yeah I've been consulting your chart ever since. Very handy.
To be honest with you.. I bought the Intel CPU insurance yesterday... so I kind of don't care that much if I screw this chip up. I bought it to have fun with overclocking in my new computer smile.gif
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Yeah I've been consulting your chart ever since. Very handy.
To be honest with you.. I bought the Intel CPU insurance yesterday... so I kind of don't care that much if I screw this chip up. I bought it to have fun with overclocking in my new computer smile.gif

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There's a lot of back and forth with 'stability', like the other guy on this page is reporting what I've heard yet another person say: You can pass prime or IBT and crash at BF3 in 5 minutes. Also, not all stress tests are made equal of course, linpack vs prime, etc.

Thanks, I'm using different stress tests to check for stability so I can cover as many angles as possible (IBT/Prime/Aida/Intel XTU/Cinebench/Handbrake) and also general usage (including BF3).

I'd set 4.5Ghz for my minumum goal but was ideally hoping for 4.7. At this point I'm just not sure I can warrant the voltage/temp jump at 4.5Ghz (1.22 vcore/max temps 85C under stress loads) to 4.6Ghz (vcore around 1.3/max temps pushing 99-100 under stress load). Just seems like a massive jump for me.

I'll keep tinkering though.
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Thanks, I'm using different stress tests to check for stability so I can cover as many angles as possible (IBT/Prime/Aida/Intel XTU/Cinebench/Handbrake) and also general usage (including BF3).

I'd set 4.5Ghz for my minumum goal but was ideally hoping for 4.7. At this point I'm just not sure I can warrant the voltage/temp jump at 4.5Ghz (1.22 vcore/max temps 85C under stress loads) to 4.6Ghz (vcore around 1.3/max temps pushing 99-100 under stress load). Just seems like a massive jump for me.

I'll keep tinkering though.

Cool, when you think you've got your overclock all set don't forget to post your stats here so I can chart them!

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Aftr lots of testing and swapping I found a descent chip 4.9ghz 1.45v 4.4ghz uncore 1.25v 8gb 2400

1.95v vrin and for the ram vccsa + 0.175 rest + 0.15-

scores 14k on physcis on fire strike and 6m29 secs on superpi lol
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Aftr lots of testing and swapping I found a descent chip 4.9ghz 1.45v 4.4ghz uncore 1.25v 8gb 2400

1.95v vrin and for the ram vccsa + 0.175 rest + 0.15-

scores 14k on physcis on fire strike and 6m29 secs on superpi lol

That's not decent, that's very, very good. Can you list:

 

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CPU VID: This is the CPU core voltage value you input into BIOS.
Vcore: This is the CPU Vcore reading from Hwinfo or HWMonitor under load. "Load" depends on what you're stressing.
Uncore Multiplier:
Uncore Voltage:
Cooling Solution:
Stability Test: [Any test is OK, synthetic or not. List how long test is run.]
Batch Number: [Not required but helps people.]
Ram Speed: [The ram speed you're running. If overclocking or XMP profile, please say so. Timings not needed.]
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btw Anusha you posted your O/C not too long ago and that really helped me because I used your settings and I got my very first stable O/C at 44x thanks to your post thumb.gif
glad i could help.
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