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TIM is all very much of a muchness. There is very little performance difference between them- 1-3c at best, which is within margin of error.

It's the application and quantity of TIM that matters the most.
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What about I upgrade to 4670K?

It's unlikely you can clock as high. Therefore you'd likely see a small performance gain, maybe even single digit %. There's nothing to gain here for bf4
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It's possible. I've bsoded many, many times not just from trying to jump over the voltage wall, but also from doing many tests for this thread. But that doesn't fully explain why I would pass 10 pass of x264 but struggle to pass half a pass now. A lot of Bsods I've had were before I settled on my x46 OC. If extra bsods caused it then it must have occured after I got x46 OC which is within two months. Still possible though. In that time I was trying to figure out the meaning of the bsod codes and I delibrately forced a good 20, 30, 40 Bsods in attempts to figure out what is what.



Already mentioned while back but I'll restate... That new batch numbers added will be four digits. And I will be making followup PMs to people in the chart asking them if their OC took a turn for the worse and if they can provide a better batch number value.
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Are you using win8/7 darkwizzie? if its win7 than its def. a corruption issue...win7 from lots of experience doesn't like to be bsod more than about 15-20 times before you start running into anomaly's and weird **** happeniong randomly. You could attempt to run a sysem scan for corrupt files.


If its win8 ive noticed she doesn't corrupt as easily however I have noticed on win8 after many bsods the drivers seem to take a hit over the registry...I have noticed several times that reinstalling chipset drivers etc and graphics drivers can correct any issues of the cpu not relating correctly to win8 and getinn watchdog timeouts or whea uncorrectable .

however I highly doubt its degrading I ran 5ghz at 1.53v with 2.1 input voltage for near 3 motnhs with 0 issues...shes running at 4.9 right now in my grisl rig.

Would be cool if Intel released a program/tool that gave indication of the health status of the or dye. Much like it does with its SSD's and same as Samsung...my guess is they have such a program/softare for server use and not available to public except smart.
Edited by FractinJex - 2/24/14 at 4:17am
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Hi, I would like to thank everyone who contributed in this thread and specially the OP for the smart guide he made.

Okay, there is something that I think is weird happening to me. I will start by stating my hardware/bios info first then describe the issue.

CPU: 4770k Batch #: L315B407
CPU Cooler: H100i in push (PS: I applied rubber washers method on the backplate to ensure better seating of the pump)
Mobo: Asus Hero

Overclocking settings:

Core multi: 44x
Vcore: 1.25v (bios) 1.264v in hwmonitor(during stress test)
Cache multi: Auto (3900mhz in hwinfo during stress)
Cache voltage: Auto
Vrin : 1.85
LLC : level 8
CPU power phase: Extreme
SVID: disabled
Internal graphics: disabled
Cstates: On (c7 short)
Other setting are left untouched (stock/auto)

Now my issue here is that when I run Prime95 27.9, temps spike to high 80's after 25'ish minutes in blend test (90 max) and will reach those temps much quicker in small FFT but I didn't run it for alot of time fearing that It will damage the CPU. (ambient 22 C, fans on max speed) Other stress tests don't produce this much heat. Aida64 and x264 for example run much cooler temps.(mid 60's as average 73 peak) Even IBT standard max temp was 84C. Idle temp is 28 C.

Are those temps normal for H100i and 1.25vcore ? I find it very strange looking at other people having the same cooler and pushing much higher Vcore or even the same vcore but much lower temps.
I pushed 2h aida64 with 45x on this Vcore but I haven't gone through more tests. (IBT X264 Prime)
I'm more concerned into solving this heat issue first before proceeding with overclocking. I'd appreciate feedback on this matter.
Edited by Zahix - 2/24/14 at 4:17am
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Are you using win8/7 darkwizzie? if its win7 than its def. a corruption issue...win7 from lots of experience doesn't like to be bsod more than about 15-20 times before you start running into anomaly's and weird **** happeniong randomly. You could attempt to run a sysem scan for corrupt files.


If its win8 ive noticed she doesn't corrupt as easily however I have noticed on win8 after many bsods the drivers seem to take a hit over the registry...I have noticed several times that reinstalling chipset drivers etc and graphics drivers can correct any issues of the cpu not relating correctly to win8 and getinn watchdog timeouts or whea uncorrectable .

however I highly doubt its degrading I ran 5ghz at 1.53v with 2.1 input voltage for near 3 motnhs with 0 issues...shes running at 4.9 right now in my grisl rig.

Would be cool if Intel released a program/tool that gave indication of the health status of the or dye. Much like it does with its SSD's and same as Samsung...my guess is they have such a program/softare for server use and not available to public except smart.

I'm using Windows 7. What's the command line for scan again?

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I seem to have hit the proverbial brick wall @ 4.2GHz on my 4770K. The temps in the pic is F@H running at max settings. P95 small FFT brings it up to the low 80s



I tried to bring it up to 45x by cranking the Vcore to 1.395v but it would start throttling like mad and temps are hitting the high 90s. I'm delidded and using MX4-IHS-MX4 while waiting for CLP to arrive.

Question is..... will a custom WC loop be any beneficial?
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Hi, I would like to thank everyone who contributed in this thread and specially the OP for the smart guide he made.

Okay, there is something that I think is weird happening to me. I will start by stating my hardware/bios info first then describe the issue.

CPU: 4770k Batch #: L315B407
CPU Cooler: H100i in push (PS: I applied rubber washers method on the backplate to ensure better seating of the pump)
Mobo: Asus Hero

Overclocking settings:

Core multi: 44x
Vcore: 1.25v (bios) 1.264v in hwmonitor(during stress test)
Cache multi: Auto (3900mhz in hwinfo during stress)
Cache voltage: Auto
Vrin : 1.85
LLC : level 8
CPU power phase: Extreme
SVID: disabled
Internal graphics: disabled
Cstates: On (c7 short)
Other setting are left untouched (stock/auto)

Now my issue here is that when I run Prime95 27.9, temps spike to high 80's after 25'ish minutes in blend test (90 max) and will reach those temps much quicker in small FFT but I didn't run it for alot of time fearing that It will damage the CPU. (ambient 22 C, fans on max speed) Other stress tests don't produce this much heat. Aida64 and x264 for example run much cooler temps.(mid 60's as average 73 peak) Even IBT standard max temp was 84C. Idle temp is 28 C.

Are those temps normal for H100i and 1.25vcore ? I find it very strange looking at other people having the same cooler and pushing much higher Vcore or even the same vcore but much lower temps.
I pushed 2h aida64 with 45x on this Vcore but I haven't gone through more tests. (IBT X264 Prime)
I'm more concerned into solving this heat issue first before proceeding with overclocking. I'd appreciate feedback on this matter.

Hey there see if I can assist some most foks prly still sleapping loll 5am here...

Your chip is very close to the one I rescenlt got almost same batch and same overclock results....

Keep this in mind a lot of the high overclocks and vcore you see are guys that have delidded the cpu which is the act of removing the IHS from the chip and removing the glue that binds it down ulimatly removing the gap that causes heat to gather under the lid and not properly exit through the lid.

Now even with 1.25v without delidding can result in high temps keep in mind the tjmax is 100c so essential yanything below is fine.

also not a fan of prime95 but of xtu
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Found broken files.

You figure this will fix the issues? Reinstalling OS is a tough sell for x46.

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I seem to have hit the proverbial brick wall @ 4.2GHz on my 4770K. The temps in the pic is Question is..... will a custom WC loop be any beneficial?

You'll be able to do 1.39v core easily on a loop
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