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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

Was not suggesting that you are lying. In the course of my work, I am responsible for setting up testing programs for large power and water treatment plants. The first step in any test which produces an unusual result is confirmation. When two tests produce widely varying results, the next step is verifying the test conditions were identical. When hundreds of tests are performed and only one produces a widely varying result, the logical procedure is to insure that the test conditions and variables were the same. Again, wasn't suggesting you were lying but my best guesses were:

1. Your test system has AVX instructions disabled via the OS or some other means. Seen MS posts on how to enable, tho don't remember any about disabling

2. You had discovered some combination of BIOS settings which bypassed the PCUs hard coding of the adaptive voltage boost or made the CPU not recognize that AVX instructions were present

3. The test did not, for whatever reason, use AVX instructions.

4. The test you were quoting was done under Manual voltage control rather than Adaptive.

None of the above.
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In response to the initial posting of your results, I took my time to run a 42 multiplier to see if I could duplicate your result at 42/42 under adaptive .... took all of 3-4 minutes of my time to run that portion of the RoG test. When I asked you to do the same, I didn't think you would see this 3-4 minute effort as a major imposition on your time. If after rerunning the test, making sure that adaptive was in fact selected and max voltages were being recorded, if you produced an identical result, then we'd have quite a mystery on our hands.....one that I hoped we could, thru a collaborative effort, eventually solve. I did not expect a name calling rant for wondering how you were able to obtain a result that AFAIK, no one else has ever been able to duplicate.

Give me a break, I know when I am running adaptive mode and of course I verify it with AI suite. Why should I run a test I have already run. I posted the results.

I already posted the boost I get under under adaptive. The whole reason I posted is because it is not what has been suggested in all the guides. If you choose not to believe me, then I don't really care.
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I can only assume that, rather than an attempt to deceive, something merely went unnoticed. I'd love to be wrong as I'd be very anxious to know how one can use Adaptive and have some control over this 0.1 V boost that everyone else is seeing when using Adaptive when AVX is present.

Or you could assume that it is right and figure out what that means, instead of assuming people are wrong. Is this the way these forums operate, people assuming other people are idiots? I am a very careful and methodical person when it comes to testing. It comes from my experimental physics background, I don't make mistakes like you are suggesting. There are no magical knobs I could have twisted or anything stupid I could have done, sorry.

If you can think of something concrete for me to look into that you think might explain the low boost and that makes sense, then I would investigate. But don't bother me with
1. Checking active/fixed mode
2. Suggestions that AVX is somehow disabled (unless you can explain how I can run P95, and how I can generate 90c+ temps and 130W in small fft)


I was only providing some, what I was hoping, useful information that I hadn't seen in these forums. I didn't expect to get the third degree, and it is very non-productive. If this is what to expect from these forum, then really I won't waste my time contributing anymore. I will again repeat the information I found fiddling around that I hadn't seen elsewhere in these forum and this is the last I will respond to this sub-thread.

1. You can test for stability against the advanced AVX2 instructions with P95 28.x (x being 5 now) without hitting high temps using 1344l 1344l FFT
2. Don't take the 0.1V boost using AVX as a given, for me the mosr I see is .02V.
3. If you want a fully stable overclock running adaptive mode, then test in adaptive mode with AVX2 (p95 28.x). This is obvious. You might have to give up
full stability to get high overclocks, especially if you get that 0.1V boost, and you have to be careful and expect up to that boost.
Edited by GeneO - 3/10/14 at 4:52pm
post #10922 of 19540
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Originally Posted by lilchronic View Post

my new 4770k sucks mad.gif 4.4ghz @ 1.25v batch # L345B842
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Originally Posted by DarkReign32 View Post

PFFT! 4.4GHz @ 1.38v. I win.

I can do better! 42 @ 1.275V
Can't do 43 even with 1.320V. I don't think it's the CPU though.., most likely the mobo.
post #10923 of 19540
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Originally Posted by lilchronic View Post

damn thats pretty bad
...........i want haswell refresh already

I can't complain too much. I picked it up from my friend for $200. He played the lottery....he did a little better but still lost in the long run lol.
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post #10924 of 19540
No one wins in the chip lottery.. You just do a little better each time....

2nd chip I lottod does 4.5 at 1.32 but its not stable it just works
Edited by tatmMRKIV - 3/10/14 at 10:54am
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4.4 @ 1.37 can confirm it sucks
post #10926 of 19540
Literally the only reason I have one is cuz I needed to replace a PC and I wanted to OC ddr3 past 2500mhz
post #10927 of 19540
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Originally Posted by tatmMRKIV View Post

No one wins in the chip lottery.. You just do a little better each time....
my first chip did 4.7 @ 1.375v
second chip did 4.6@ 1.3v
third chip did 4.6 @ 1.275
forth chip did 4.7 @ 1.3v
5th chip does 4.4 @ 1.25v
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Or in some cases worse lol. I found a chip that did 4.5 3nd try and stuck with it cuz I knew I wouldn't find better

My mobo may be flaky as well because it literally only boots at 4.5. first chip did 4.8 but was damaged so I sold it my mobo stopped posting completely with it

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At this point I am just waiting for ddr4 or a golden 4930k to surface
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my first chip did 4.7 @ 1.375v
second chip did 4.6@ 1.3v
third chip did 4.6 @ 1.275
forth chip did 4.7 @ 1.3v
5th chip does 4.4 @ 1.25v

Next time it'll be 4.3.

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Next time it'll be 4.3.

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