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There seem to be a habit with the Malaysian batches. Though saying that mines Malaysian and run 4.5 at 1.33v. Still under average compare to the Costa Rica's. Now here's a question. Why is it that they're so different? Is it the way they make it or what?
I don't know that there is any true correlation between bad clockers and a specific region. I've got 4.3 on my costa rica chip and it won't go any further. we would need a significantly greater sample size to see if there is a real trend
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I don't know that there is any true correlation between bad clockers and a specific region. I've got 4.3 on my costa rica chip and it won't go any further. we would need a significantly greater sample size to see if there is a real trend

Some people are hypothesizing that maybe it's not just location, but also batch number as in the time period in which the CPU was made. So maybe August 15th CPUs are better than September's. That's even hard to prove though.

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In the interest of keeping the data updated, here's some updated chart info from me. The settings are mostly the same, just dialed a few things in here and there. Sadly, my stats are completely predictable so I don't change the averages and medians much jealoussmiley.gif.

Username: Brutus090
CPU Model: 4770k
Core Multiplier:x 45
CPU VID: 1.280
Vcore: 1.296
Uncore Multiplier: x42
Uncore Voltage: 1.150
Cooling Solution: Phanteks TC14PE
Stability Test: Prime 27.9 Custom FFT 1344 1 hour, x264 for 60 passes
Batch Number: 3313B373
Ram Speed: Crucial Ballistix 1600 9-9-9-24
Input Voltage: 1.9001.850
LLC Setting: Highest (can't remember, but definitely not auto)
Motherboard: Asus Hero

I'd like to just throw it out there, although this maybe an old discussion point and no longer on the table, that I would definitely be interested in a second version of the original chart with more "strict" rules about both stress tests and general methodology...while I know getting a vast amount of users to help mess around and record data with their chips is unlikely, even just a solid handful of us using some standardized methods might produce interesting results.

Also, picture verification: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


Edited by brutus090 - 3/17/14 at 3:41am
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My chip is from malaysia and it's pretty moody. wont go above 4.4 without an insane amount of vcore
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Does anyone have the MSI GD65 mobo and have your 4770k set to 4.5GHz? Would you mind giving me your bios settings in full, I am having trouble keeping my rig from shutting down due to the settings being insufficient.
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It won't help you, your chip is different. What you want to know is the problem and then increase whatever is needed. If you don't know your BSOD code then grab the bluescreenview program which will show it for you.
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It won't help you, your chip is different. What you want to know is the problem and then increase whatever is needed. If you don't know your BSOD code then grab the bluescreenview program which will show it for you.

Well, I dont mean the voltage settings, I was mainly talking about all the other settings.
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In the interest of keeping the data updated, here's some updated chart info from me. The settings are mostly the same, just dialed a few things in here and there. Sadly, my stats are completely predictable so I don't change the averages and medians much jealoussmiley.gif.

Username: Brutus090
CPU Model: 4770k
Core Multiplier:x 45
CPU VID: 1.280
Vcore: 1.296
Uncore Multiplier: x42
Uncore Voltage: 1.150
Cooling Solution: Phanteks TC14PE
Stability Test: Prime 27.9 Custom FFT 1344 1 hour, x264 for 60 passes
Batch Number: 3313B373
Ram Speed: Crucial Ballistix 1600 9-9-9-24
Input Voltage: 1.900
LLC Setting: Highest (can't remember, but definitely not auto)
Motherboard: Asus Hero

I'd like to just throw it out there, although this maybe an old discussion point and no longer on the table, that I would definitely be interested in a second version of the original chart with more "strict" rules about both stress tests and general methodology...while I know getting a vast amount of users to help mess around and record data with their chips is unlikely, even just a solid handful of us using some standardized methods might produce interesting results.

Also, picture verification: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

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Some people are hypothesizing that maybe it's not just location, but also batch number as in the time period in which the CPU was made. So maybe August 15th CPUs are better than September's. That's even hard to prove though.

Something to add as well...a friend of mine is very knowledgable in the fabrication of processor's etc...we talked once about newer chips and batches etc...he told me at one point that certain locations or where the chip is frabricated can result in possibly better chips possibly one reason is say from costa rica they are fabricating the higher end chips including some haswells such as 4770k's 4670ks' and the non k models and server cpu's while Malaysia may only be producing haswell and lower end chips.

What this means is since they are also producing non k models such as the 4770 and 4770S which have been proven to be lower temp and almost all 4770's non k have very low vid's almost as if they are pick exclusively which they are most likely and the ones that don't make the cut are used as k models....mnean while in Malaysia they are simply pumping out allk haswell chips and not the higher end lower tdp ones....resulting is lower overall overhead (per wafer)...

(this is no way means the quality of the cpu is any less.)

also keep in mind all chips are tested...they aren't just created and tossed in the box...so when someone says they received a dead chip this is simply incorrect and they either damaged the chip prior to socketing or the motherboard killed the chip...

as long as the cpu pass's at the rated GHZ for X amount of time its boxed and shipped....does intel cherry pick cpu's yes they do how often hard to say.

from all the 4770ks I have used and gone thorugh I simply always get the costa rican batches...I have had one Malaysian chip that was good all other have been very poor overclockers.

the last 4 costa rican chips have all been able to do 4.7-4.8ghz below 1.5v average 1.45v 3333C batch
Edited by FractinJex - 3/13/14 at 6:31am
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