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Has anyone tried the new Asus Bios 1402 ?

Yes, had to go back on my Hero to get back stable overclock back.
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Yes, had to go back on my Hero to get back stable overclock back.
Oh, it is that bad? not gonna bother with it then. Which bios are you currently using? I'm thinking of trying the old 804 and see if its better than current 1302.
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Ok, this any good?lol. Can't seem to get my 4960 above 4.7/4.8 3960 no problem 5 ghz..




Sorry, wrong thread. Don't know how I pulled that one...redface.gif


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as stated on the first page, do you keep it somewhere between 1.2-1.3V?

Another voltage question. I am trying to find 4.5 ghz stability settings. Just started doing this so lots of settings to try still. I am approaching 1.45 Vcore so I am about done there. I understand I need to move Vinput up to try to get stable. I am only at 2V or so at the moment and I see DW had to go to 2.15V to get his 4.6 ghz stability. I would like to know if you guys have to increase the VTT to get stability? I mostly get 101 bsod code but every once in a while I get 124 bsod code and I have tried to resolve it by bumping VTT up a notch. Interesting thing is after I do so, HWinfo still shows my VTT as the original value. Typicall 1.12V IIRC, however, I have bumped it higher than that. 1.16V I think.

If the uncore is at stock, settting auto is probably fine but you could set it to 1.2 to be safe. Way I see it, if auto doesn't work for stock uncore, then your CPU won't boot even without an overclock because with stock settings only, the uncore is unstable.

 

What is Vinput?

 

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Ok, this any good?lol. Can't seem to get my 4960 above 4.7/4.8 3960 no problem 5 ghz..

That's an Ivy Bridge E cpu, not a Haswell cpu.

 

 

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What is Vinput?
Sorry, it is how I refer to Vccin. I call it Vin or Vinput.



and can anyone respond to my VTT question? Do you guys suspect it should be increased when you get bsod 124?


edit: another question. maybe i overlooked your suggestion in the OP but should HT be turned off when stress testing and finding max OC? It is currently turned on in my BIOS.
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Sorry, it is how I refer to Vccin. I call it Vin or Vinput.



and can anyone respond to my VTT question? Do you guys suspect it should be increased when you get bsod 124?


edit: another question. maybe i overlooked your suggestion in the OP but should HT be turned off when stress testing and finding max OC? It is currently turned on in my BIOS.

What is the name of the parameter that you changed for VTT? because IO voltage is the QPI/VTT(that you might be referring to), it is sometimes confused with vttddr which is something diffrent.
Why do you want to increase VTT?

Edit: IO voltages help with DRAM stability
Edited by Zahix - 3/17/14 at 8:55am
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What is the name of the parameter that you changed for VTT? because IO voltage is the QPI/VTT(that you might be referring to), it is sometimes confused with vttddr which is something diffrent.
Why do you want to increase VTT?

Edit: IO voltages help with DRAM stability
thanks! i believe i was changing vttddr! I could not find qpi/vvt. So, i can try IO voltage instead. I was getting bsod 124 and after googling i found that it could either mean increase qpi/vvt OR increase vcore. I figured it was worth it to try slightly bumping qpi/vvt. Should I not worry about increasing this voltage parameter upon bsod 124 and only mess with the vcore and vccin?

I understand that bsod 101 definitely means the vcore should be tweaked.
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as stated on the first page, do you keep it somewhere between 1.2-1.3V?

Another voltage question. I am trying to find 4.5 ghz stability settings. Just started doing this so lots of settings to try still. I am approaching 1.45 Vcore so I am about done there. I understand I need to move Vinput up to try to get stable. I am only at 2V or so at the moment and I see DW had to go to 2.15V to get his 4.6 ghz stability. I would like to know if you guys have to increase the VTT to get stability? I mostly get 101 bsod code but every once in a while I get 124 bsod code and I have tried to resolve it by bumping VTT up a notch. Interesting thing is after I do so, HWinfo still shows my VTT as the original value. Typicall 1.12V IIRC, however, I have bumped it higher than that. 1.16V I think.

I think most people here set uncore to either 33x or 34x and to 1.15v when starting out. Even at 42 uncore I need less than 1.15. 1.3v is too much.

In the OP the median uncore multi is 41 with 1.2v.
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thanks! i believe i was changing vttddr! I could not find qpi/vvt. So, i can try IO voltage instead. I was getting bsod 124 and after googling i found that it could either mean increase qpi/vvt OR increase vcore. I figured it was worth it to try slightly bumping qpi/vvt. Should I not worry about increasing this voltage parameter upon bsod 124 and only mess with the vcore and vccin?

I understand that bsod 101 definitely means the vcore should be tweaked.

QPI/VTT was a common voltage to increase for BSOD 124 with Bloomfield. QPI/VTT was to stabilize uncore on Bloomfield (specifically the IMC). "Uncore" on Haswell is Ring Bus or Cache, and Ring Bus / Cache voltage is controlled by CPU Cache Voltage / VRING / VCCRING, which we take out of the equation when overclocking core (by setting multi to 33x or 34x, and CPU Cache Voltage to 1.15v).

My observations is that BSOD 124 on Haswell pretty much means increase VID (and also make sure your VCCIN / Eventual / VRIN is high enough).
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Sorry, it is how I refer to Vccin. I call it Vin or Vinput.



and can anyone respond to my VTT question? Do you guys suspect it should be increased when you get bsod 124?


edit: another question. maybe i overlooked your suggestion in the OP but should HT be turned off when stress testing and finding max OC? It is currently turned on in my BIOS.

For HT, if you plan to use HT I would turn HT on when testing. Then again if you didn't plan to use HT you would not have bought a CPU with HT. So yeah, I'd leave it on. 

 

Your VTT terminology is also confusing to me since I don't own older CPUs. But I read the other guy's explanation so I think I get it.

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