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Oh, it is that bad? not gonna bother with it then. Which bios are you currently using? I'm thinking of trying the old 804 and see if its better than current 1302.

Even my 4.2 OC wasn't stable anymore. I was using 1301 but reverted back to 1203 for now.

I don't know what irreversible changes there are. It appears to me that, even though I used flash back USB to revert, the Intel Management Engine didn't revert back. I thought the flash back would revert everything back or I wouldn't have updated.

Unfortunately I didn't write down the ME version before updating. Could you post yours? It should be on the main page of the BIOS. Might verify this.
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Can you explain to me how is this a problem and the relation between ME and Bios? I have never downgraded a bios before.
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Can you explain to me how is this a problem and the relation between ME and Bios? I have never downgraded a bios before.

The Management Engine is a module in the BIOS. I flashed back from 1402 to 1203 and I am still at the 1402 9.0.30.1482 Intel Management Engine. I had assumed that using flash back , since it is done outside of the BIOS, would revert all BIOS modules back to the older version, but apparently not. I expect the same is true of processor microcode updates for instance. So this means some changes are irreversible unless you buy a BIOS chip from Asus with the older version. That's a shame to me. I guess I am saying, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, you cannot easily revert back to what you had.
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Hi

First of all Big thanks to Darkwizzie for your effort in this guide ,, really really helpful ,, i also used the data from the other members with same hardware as starting point for my OC .

from yesterday and i'm playing with my 4770k on ,y Asus Vi Hero ( Bios 1301 ) ,,

i was and still thinking that i'm not too lucky with my chip and may be i'm not totally right ,, personnaly i will be satisfied with 4500 as 24/7 OC but

currently running 4500 with 1.275 and paased 33 run of x264 test ( by the way the last edit from angelotti is really easy to work with not like the first one which i download and couldn't run at all !!! )

max temp was (68-67-63-62) C and i hit 90 with FPU test in AIDA64 and IBT but still stable ,, i'm not happy with these temp especially when i have a reference 780ti OC to 1228 Mhz and my max temp was on 42 C on most strressful tests ,, i'm running Custom loop with 2 Rad ( XT45 360mm+ UT60 240mm ) and XSPC raystorm block for CPU with Gelid GC-3 as thermal compund

i'm not thinking about deliding my CPU unless its really needed ,, so based on the date above do you guys think its needed ?! or should i just think about re-applying the TIM again ?! this can be done easily on my next system flush / update.


also i'm not done with the testing and still trying to lower the voltage more but i don't think the temp will be much lower ,,


* any body tried Intel(R) Extreme Tuning Utility ?! is the stress test worthy in it ?!


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i'm not thinking about deliding my CPU unless its really needed ,, so based on the date above do you guys think its needed ?!

Your max temp was 68c on hottest core encoding. If it were 20c hotter i'd be thinking seriously about delid.

If you're simulating worst case temperatures, there's a test that will already take you to 100c - Linpack with avx2 - and it's generally agreed upon that it's pretty pointless to run. Encoding or even select harder tests is where it's at
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Your max temp was 68c on hottest core encoding. If it were 20c hotter i'd be thinking seriously about delid.

If you're simulating worst case temperatures, there's a test that will already take you to 100c - Linpack with avx2 - and it's generally agreed upon that it's pretty pointless to run. Encoding or even select harder tests is where it's at
Cryo, is running aida64 for temperature testing worth it in your opinion? Maybe run it prior to an over night run of x264. This way you can verify that you stay under a certain temp (aida64) and also you are stable (x264). Asking from a standpoint of simply looking for stability in a gaming/F@H rig.
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Cryo, is running aida64 for temperature testing worth it in your opinion? Maybe run it prior to an over night run of x264. This way you can verify that you stay under a certain temp (aida64) and also you are stable (x264). Asking from a standpoint of simply looking for stability in a gaming/F@H rig.

I don't see why you would choose Adia. x264 temps are valid - if you want something hotter than full load with a video encoder, like i said you can break out Linpack with avx2 and get 100c at 1.15-1.25v - i just don't see any reason for it
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I'd still be careful with Furmark and OC Scanner. There have been plenty of times when company reps have steered people in the wrong direction, and there are threads where Furmark has killed 780s.

Not seen that ..... I can see it happening if ya not watching temps and have a so-so reference card I can see temp possibly being an issue.... but I have trouble breaking 44C under Furmark on each card under SLI. Also were these instances with reference cards or non-reference ? The Classified and Lightning are obviously designed to take all ya can throw out them with their double digit VRMs but even the factory OC'd cards like the MSI N Series, Asus DCII and Gigabyte Windforce have nice beefy non-reference VRMs and custom PCBs. I'd be more careful with a reference card as well ..... with a EVGA SC series as though it has a better cooler than the reference model which allows a modest OC, it still has reference PCB and VRM.
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I don't see why you would choose Adia. x264 temps are valid - if you want something hotter than full load with a video encoder, like i said you can break out Linpack with avx2 and get 100c at 1.15-1.25v - i just don't see any reason for it
cool, just making sure x264 is sufficient. I need to revise my voltages as I have been mainly bumping Vcore and Input Voltage and I have already hit near the safe limit going for a 45 multi. Temps run into the mid to upper 70s during the test. I read that I may be able to drop my Vcore and input voltage a bit and increase cpu analog/digital offset voltages a bit instead. Maybe this would yield stability with slightly lower temps.

I am fully prepared to delid if it is necessary on this chip.
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Got a 4670K to play with today. Lets hope I got one from a good batch. Costa rica 340
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