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Vdroop compensation deals with input voltage, not Vcore. I don't recall ever seeing a Haswell chip drop voltage under load, it's always been the opposite.

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That's hilarious...not happy w/ 4.6?! I am stuck @ stock right now, lol.

Don't hate me smile.gif but yes, not entirely happy. I upgraded from my 3770k that I could get 4.9Ghz easily. I expected to get at least 4.7Ghz on this one, but haswell=hassle! I know it won't make real difference in gaming etc but it's about justifying the money I've spent smile.gif

I returned the first chip, which gave me BSODs with friggin 3.9Ghz turbo!! I am happy with this chip but as I stated earlier, not entirely smile.gif
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The median OC is 4.5ghz and the average OC is 4.56ghz. If you weren't satisfied with that before buying, it's best  to either a) Leave it to chance entirely b) Decide to bin or c) Not upgrade. It's very strange that a chip bsods at 3.9ghz turbo. Turbo only ramps to 4.9ghz on 4770k if you have load on like, 2 or less cores IIRC. I have never seen or heard of a chip bsoding on turbo before.

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My 1st chip was garbage. My 2nd chip would hit 100C @ stock...on a Venomous X, lol! My 3rd chip is unhappy w/ 4.2 Ghz, so I just gave up.

Testing stock right now to see what's up.

Some interesting observations.

-CPU, RAM, GPU, Mobo...ALL STOCK SPEEDS
-PC up for 2 days?
-PC into and out of S3 about 10 - 15 times
-Firefox, CPU-Z, HWmonitor, LAMP (Shacknews.com reader), Foobar
-S3 while Foobar playing music w/ ASIO on @ 24 bit & 1ms latency

After about a 45 minutes, I noticed the song scratching. Task manager was showing my CPU @ 75%...typically @ 5%, if that. Couldn't get to it quick enough to see what was pounding the system (CPU-Z was @ the top w/ like 3 or 5%)...but then it happened again. Guess what? System. Damn. In the past I have seen this spike because of a disconnected/fault SATA cable on a HDD. Also, the Xonar DX Audio Center icon had disappeared from the systray.

I have read reports of sub 10ms latency causing crackling, so this may very well be the issue. AND, it did not freeze. Rebooted, everything seems ok. Also, possibly due to ASIO being on while in and out of S3.

I suppose easy test is:

-10ms latency
-stop foobar before S3
-do not use ASIO

Guess, I kinda answered my own question. Would love feedback tho.
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The median OC is 4.5ghz and the average OC is 4.56ghz. If you weren't satisfied with that before buying, it's best  to either a) Leave it to chance entirely b) Decide to bin or c) Not upgrade. It's very strange that a chip bsods at 3.9ghz turbo. Turbo only ramps to 4.9ghz on 4770k if you have load on like, 2 or less cores IIRC. I have never seen or heard of a chip bsoding on turbo before.


Ramps to 4.9Ghz turbo? I think we're talking about two different things here, I am talking about Intel's Max Turbo Frequency which is 3.9 GHz for the 4770K. And yes, if you've never seen or heard of a chip BSOding with turbo, I've seen and owned one smile.gif

As for deciding, I took option A, and I am happy with the achieved OC but was hopping to get 4.7Ghz+.
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Typo, typo is obvious.
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Originally Posted by Jodiuh View Post

My 1st chip was garbage. My 2nd chip would hit 100C @ stock...on a Venomous X, lol! My 3rd chip is unhappy w/ 4.2 Ghz, so I just gave up.

Testing stock right now to see what's up.

Some interesting observations.

-CPU, RAM, GPU, Mobo...ALL STOCK SPEEDS
-PC up for 2 days?
-PC into and out of S3 about 10 - 15 times
-Firefox, CPU-Z, HWmonitor, LAMP (Shacknews.com reader), Foobar
-S3 while Foobar playing music w/ ASIO on @ 24 bit & 1ms latency

After about a 45 minutes, I noticed the song scratching. Task manager was showing my CPU @ 75%...typically @ 5%, if that. Couldn't get to it quick enough to see what was pounding the system (CPU-Z was @ the top w/ like 3 or 5%)...but then it happened again. Guess what? System. Damn. In the past I have seen this spike because of a disconnected/fault SATA cable on a HDD. Also, the Xonar DX Audio Center icon had disappeared from the systray.

I have read reports of sub 10ms latency causing crackling, so this may very well be the issue. AND, it did not freeze. Rebooted, everything seems ok. Also, possibly due to ASIO being on while in and out of S3.

I suppose easy test is:

-10ms latency
-stop foobar before S3
-do not use ASIO

Guess, I kinda answered my own question. Would love feedback tho.

Xonar!!?!?! Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Xonar drivers are garbage, it caused crackling noise and CPU spikes to my previous setup. Try running stock and OCing without the Xonar and see if it's the reason for the CPU spikes you're experiencing. I am sure you've already done that, disable the onboard sound when you use Xonar, as it gets offended when there is another sound card enabled.
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Onboard is off.

I'm using the Uni drivers. Try those?

But honestly? I don't remember ever having any issues w/ my Xonar, lol! It has been great.

Also, removing the sound card is not an option. Not for a second. I'm get more jollies off a good song and some quality audio gear than making whoopie w/ a pretty lady. For reals!

I'm pretty sure it's my fault. S3 while ASIO is going on @ 1ms is a recipe for disaster.
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Originally Posted by marrawi View Post


Ramps to 4.9Ghz turbo? I think we're talking about two different things here, I am talking about Intel's Max Turbo Frequency which is 3.9 GHz for the 4770K. And yes, if you've never seen or heard of a chip BSOding with turbo, I've seen and owned one smile.gif

As for deciding, I took option A, and I am happy with the achieved OC but was hopping to get 4.7Ghz+.

Typo.

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Onboard is off.

I'm using the Uni drivers. Try those?

But honestly? I don't remember ever having any issues w/ my Xonar, lol! It has been great.

Also, removing the sound card is not an option. Not for a second. I'm get more jollies off a good song and some quality audio gear than making whoopie w/ a pretty lady. For reals!

I'm pretty sure it's my fault. S3 while ASIO is going on @ 1ms is a recipe for disaster.


Yes, I remember trying those custom ones and they were better than Asus' for sure! but I hear you smile.gif if you're an audiophile then to hell with everything else smile.gif

I had the HDAV 1.3 as I was using HDMI with home theater/TV. My wife kicked me out of the living room so I have Logitech headphones instead of the TX-NR727 :/ if you like good sound then don't get married!
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