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btw, should I disable C-States while I stress test with IBT? Different opinions about the C-States and OC stress testing floating around the internets.

Stress with the same settings you plan to run 24/7.
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heey
i am trying to OC 4670k

so far i tried alot but always end up bluescreen while playing BF3

so i started all over with :

Batch - L314B405 Malay
Core Multiplier: 42
Ring Multiplier:35
VID in bios was set : 1.176v
CPU Vcore in system: 1.188v
Ring Voltage auto
VRIN: auto in bios / in system 1.764V
Motherboard: GA-Z87-HD3 ( bios F6)
RAM voltage : 1.500V

and AIDA64 test for 1 hour temp reached 77 C



i did test with IBT stress level High and temp reached = 90 C eek.gifeek.gif




i am still trying to set more voltages to manual and tune stuff lil bit

what you guys think of this OC i had ?
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Originally Posted by ham4ever View Post

heey
i am trying to OC 4670k

so far i tried alot but always end up bluescreen while playing BF3

so i started all over with :

Batch - L314B405 Malay
Core Multiplier: 42
Ring Multiplier:35
VID in bios was set : 1.176v
CPU Vcore in system: 1.188v
Ring Voltage auto
VRIN: auto in bios / in system 1.764V
Motherboard: GA-Z87-HD3 ( bios F6)
RAM voltage : 1.500V

and AIDA64 test for 1 hour temp reached 77 C
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i did test with IBT stress level High and temp reached = 90 C eek.gifeek.gif
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i am still trying to set more voltages to manual and tune stuff lil bit

what you guys think of this OC i had ?

Are you running Adaptive on CPU Core Voltage or CPU Cache Voltage?

What CPU cooler do you have?
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Are you running Adaptive on CPU Core Voltage or CPU Cache Voltage?

What CPU cooler do you have?


i am using Scythe Mugen 4 PCGH-Edition CPU cooler.


i dont think i have Adaptive in gigabyte.
what is called in gigabyte motherboard ?
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Working on my 4770K. Much more frustrating (fun?) than Sandy Bridge. With Sandy Bridge I could tell if I was going in the right direction. A little more vcore and the stress test would last longer. That doesn't seem to be the case with Haswell. Have other people experienced this also? Do you just hit a point where you're stable, but before then stress tests crash randomly at any given time?

Right now I'm at 1.316 vcore, 1.9 vccin, 1.2 cache voltage for 4.4 with a 35 cache ratio. Memory at 1600. Using Prime 28.5 for initial testing (I know I'm old fashioned).
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Working on my 4770K. Much more frustrating (fun?) than Sandy Bridge. With Sandy Bridge I could tell if I was going in the right direction. A little more vcore and the stress test would last longer. That doesn't seem to be the case with Haswell. Have other people experienced this also? Do you just hit a point where you're stable, but before then stress tests crash randomly at any given time?

Right now I'm at 1.316 vcore, 1.9 vccin, 1.2 cache voltage for 4.4 with a 35 cache ratio. Memory at 1600. Using Prime 28.5 for initial testing (I know I'm old fashioned).

Try going 1:1 with the cache and vcore, even if the voltage gets 'high', then drop down cache multiplier and voltage, and finally vcore. That's what I did.
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I am not sure if I just have a poor chip, or I don't have my settings right looking for some assistance with my OC.

 

4670k / CM EVO 212 on an ASRock z87 Extreme4 

 

 

 

Here is the best stable OC I was able to achieve without bumping up over 1.3v (4.4Ghz not possible under 1.3v) :

 

4.3Ghz

Multiplier 43

VCore Override Voltage - 1.290

Cache Voltage - 1.240

 

All other settings default, Voltages are set on Override, not adaptive.

 

Should there be other possible changes I could make?   4.3Ghz @ 1.29v seems like a pretty crappy OC.

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Originally Posted by morbid_bean View Post

I am not sure if I just have a poor chip, or I don't have my settings right looking for some assistance with my OC.

4670k / CM EVO 212 on an ASRock z87 Extreme4 



Here is the best stable OC I was able to achieve without bumping up over 1.3v (4.4Ghz not possible under 1.3v) :

4.3Ghz
Multiplier 43
VCore Override Voltage - 1.290
Cache Voltage - 1.240

All other settings default, Voltages are set on Override, not adaptive.

Should there be other possible changes I could make?   4.3Ghz @ 1.29v seems like a pretty crappy OC.

What are your temps?
post #11689 of 19601
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Originally Posted by morbid_bean View Post

I am not sure if I just have a poor chip, or I don't have my settings right looking for some assistance with my OC.

4670k / CM EVO 212 on an ASRock z87 Extreme4 

Here is the best stable OC I was able to achieve without bumping up over 1.3v (4.4Ghz not possible under 1.3v) :

4.3Ghz
Multiplier 43
VCore Override Voltage - 1.290
Cache Voltage - 1.240

All other settings default, Voltages are set on Override, not adaptive.
Should there be other possible changes I could make?   4.3Ghz @ 1.29v seems like a pretty crappy OC.

Unless you have a "cherry picked" cpu, it's unlikely you'll get above 44 on asrock boards. You can see this on various forums if you google it.
Here's a replay from a few days ago that i made for another asrock board owner : http://www.overclock.net/t/1411077/haswell-overclocking-guide-with-statistics/11630#post_22061573

I can do 43 at 1.310V for everyday usage, but crash in less than 10 min under prime.
I also tried 44 at 1.38, tested just with x264 and it crashes after two or three loops.

You can try raising the input voltage to 1.95/2.0V, disable C-States until you find the cpu/MB limit, set LLC to 2 or even 1..., and even disable spread spectrum, integrated vr faults and enable internal pll overvoltage.

None of these are necessary on asus, gigabyte or msi boards (at least for multipliers lower than 44), but i've seen these recommended for asrock boards.

Except for VCCIN to 1.95/2V none of the above helped me, but you can try.
Also, while testing for 43 at 1.31/1.32V i noticed that if i enabled both C6 and C7 states, i crash under prime within 4 or 5 seconds.
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I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but you do have a crappy board.
I have the same board, and there are a few things that show it's "quality" (or rather the lack of it).
First, after two months the first sata port is gone. It "died" on it's own. I checked with 4 drives (of which 2 ssd's) and half of dozen cables.

Second, the onboard audio is crap!, much worse than 'bog standard' xonar dg. They advertised it to be superior to standard onboard audio through it's ALC1150 and two amps but the reality of it is, that the sound is muddy at low volume and at high volume it's mostly noise (especially the treble).

Third, and this is more pertinent to this thread, the OC unfriendliness of the board (probably due to the cheapness of the components).
- Even at 4.1GHz @ 1.220V i need 1.9V VCCIN!, if i drop it to 1.850V it will bsod after few minutes.
- The lack of 'one to five' settings for the LLC that are present on the "non M" asrock boards, replaced with 'enable/disable'. If it had the same physical components as the "non M" boards, than it should have had the same settings for LLC.
- Any change to the multiplier or voltage or cache or ram etc.., will automatically set the LLC to disable (equivalent to 'one') and also, automatically change the input to manual @ 1.9V.
- It doesn't have an Vcore sensor implemented (i think for the entire 1150 line).

Another thing that might be related to this board (since i heave not read about this anywhere else):
I was trying the "cache on stock at 1.15V" that was recommended by the OP (only that i had it set to 1.2V) for my 4.2GHz OC, and could not reach stability even at 1.310 VID. So i thought of ramping the cache voltage to 1.250V (still at stock '3.4') for 4.2 multi, only this time i went back to 1.250 VID and it took more then an hour to crash.
Tested some more, and i ended up at 42@1.265V adaptive (on manual i need 1.280V) and the cache at 40@1.255V (adaptive).

The conclusion is: for my 42@1.265 i needed cache at 1.25x regardless whether at 34 or 40 multiplier.


Yeah, I noticed this missing LLC Settings. Z87M Extreme 4 here. But they just matter if you use adaptive VCCIN, right?
And yes, the missing sensor really sucks!

It seems you had bad luck with your ASRock.
My board is stable with 1,7V VCCIN @ 4,4 GHz

But I even BSOD with an UNCORE of 40 - at 1,2V RING; 1,9VCCIN. And then I get like 100°C with Prime small FFT. party.gif
On the other hand, my chip won't do 4,5GHz with UNCORE x34 and 1,3VCORE; 1,2V RING and 2,1VCCIN.
So I guess I'm done here.

Yes, the ASROCK Z87M Extreme 4 is a budget boad, but full overclocking capability for 90€ is a nice deal smile.gif
In the end, it comes down to the Haswell CPU.
Edited by schlonzo - 4/8/14 at 4:17am
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