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post #1171 of 19539
To boil it all down -

We have 3 voltages that are "important" ?

  • Volt for the CORE (Vcore)
  • Volt for the UNCORE
  • Input voltage

I *HATE* the fact that companies decided to give it different names.

The last one - Input voltage - I have never touched, and I am having real problems finding it on my ASUS ROG motherboard. I can find an Initial Input Voltage and Eventual Input Voltage, is this it ?

TIP: Bumping my System Agent voltage to 1.25 helped me gain stability - I took the advice from the Haswell 1-2-3 OC guide.
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The last one - Input voltage - I have never touched, and I am having real problems finding it on my ASUS ROG motherboard. I can find an Initial Input Voltage and Eventual Input Voltage, is this it ?

That's it. I think Eventual Input Voltage is the one you want to mess with, initial is the boot up voltage or something.

And some people have had success by increasing VCCIOD as well as VCCSA, especially if you are running high speed RAM.
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That's it. I think Eventual Input Voltage is the one you want to mess with, initial is the boot up voltage or something.

And some people have had success by increasing VCCIOD as well as VCCSA, especially if you are running high speed RAM.

Thanks mate - Will bump the eventual to 2.0 and see where that takes me - Not really bothered about temperatures at the moment, still have a good 30C to my limit (90C).

Yup - I bumped the VCCIOD and VCCSA to 1.25 - Running memory at 2800Mhz CL11 - Pure bliss smile.gif

  • Will "reset" memory - Put Vcore at 1.4 / Eventual at 2.0 and push the multiplier on CORE.
  • Once I found a stable I will play around with UNCORE and put the UNCORE voltage at 1.25.
  • Lastly- Memory - VCCIOD and VCCSA at 1.25 and see where I land.
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Haswell is a real mystery. I've made this thread, patrolled over a thousand replies, and there are still things I don't get.

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Haswell is a real mystery. I've made this thread, patrolled over a thousand replies, and there are still things I don't get.

Ditto - I find it interesting that there is not even a "real" guide on the ROG forums yet - The so called "Guide" goes into great details what the different options do, but it is in no way a real guide - As we saw with Sandy / Ivy.

I check in on this thread 10+ times a day - And find it amazing that we are able to uncover these small golden nuggets of information - Though I hope that the OP (Which I have not checked during the last days) gets updated with these nuggets - Such as eventual voltage etc. I seen countless of threads where you had to dig through 1000+ replies in order to get all the information it contained.

No disrespect DarkWizzie - You are doing an amazing job and I thank you for creating a thead like this, where we can voice our discoveries / questions and report the results.
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Alrighty I have another overclock update. To confirm keeping the 500mhz less uncore that I have suspected it cuasing issues for most.

IXTU 9 hours passed 3 hours bf3 passed:

4770k 4.7ghz 1.275 with uncore 4.2ghz 1.16v Input voltage of 1.96v I have found above 1.90-1.95 works well with overclocks pushing above 4.6ghz anything under 1.95v feels starved literaly its weird it wont crash but I can feel the force lol biggrin.gif
Edited by Clexzor - 8/26/13 at 7:04am
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Well...

 

I've been playing BF3 a lot since I purchased Humble Bundle. Zero crashes. No hiccups at all whatsoever, buttery smooth. I go to Crysis, I've had the computer lock up few times. I go to chess, it has happened sporadically. Sometimes, once every 48 hours, sometimes once every 15 minutes. I'm profoundly confuzzled.

 

Maybe it is true, that I degraded my chip. Who knows? 

 

In the back of my mind I do still believe if I simply give up and go back to 4.5ghz all my Bsods will complity disappear. Last I checked that was the case. If that quits being the case then I know it's my abuse taking its toll. I've even changed the SA/io voltages to +0.135v, it's not doing anything. So much trial and error.

 

 

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Ditto - I find it interesting that there is not even a "real" guide on the ROG forums yet - The so called "Guide" goes into great details what the different options do, but it is in no way a real guide - As we saw with Sandy / Ivy.

I check in on this thread 10+ times a day - And find it amazing that we are able to uncover these small golden nuggets of information - Though I hope that the OP (Which I have not checked during the last days) gets updated with these nuggets - Such as eventual voltage etc. I seen countless of threads where you had to dig through 1000+ replies in order to get all the information it contained.

No disrespect DarkWizzie - You are doing an amazing job and I thank you for creating a thead like this, where we can voice our discoveries / questions and report the results.
If you list more of what you think I'm missing, that'd make it easier for me to update my thread.

Edited by Darkwizzie - 8/26/13 at 7:59am
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does BSOD 101 mean core vocre and BSOD 124 mean uncore vcore?
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does BSOD 101 mean core vocre and BSOD 124 mean uncore vcore?

I believe 101 is Vccin and 124 is probably vcore. As I've said, if you simply set ring bus to stock and you still get 124 then you know something's up.

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Well...

I've been playing BF3 a lot since I purchased Humble Bundle. Zero crashes. No hiccups at all whatsoever, buttery smooth. I go to Crysis, I've had the computer lock up few times. I go to chess, it has happened sporadically. Sometimes, once every 48 hours, sometimes once every 15 minutes. I'm profoundly confuzzled.

Maybe it is true, that I degraded my chip. Who knows? 

In the back of my mind I do still believe if I simply give up and go back to 4.5ghz all my Bsods will complity disappear. Last I checked that was the case. If that quits being the case then I know it's my abuse taking its toll. I've even changed the SA/io voltages to +0.135v, it's not doing anything. So much trial and error.


Darkwizzle you keep getting freezes right? What input/vrin/vccin are you running? Because that sounds like low input voltage issue when ittl crash after several days by either freeze meaning your close to stable or hard reset/shutdown means you needs a descent chunk...if your only using in the range of 1.8-1.85 you need to increase that.

After a lot of stress testing and having tested 5 chips myself I can tell you 2 main issues people are having...

1: not enough input voltage up to 2.0v is safe for 24/7 and a lot of chips need that past 4.7 etc...usually 1.85-1.95 should be good for the range of 4.4-4.8
2: and this is a biggy a lot of chips are not capable running a high uncore meaning past 4.4-4.5 and most do not use enough voltage. The best way I have found and this is on a good retail chip in top 20% is that a uncore of 500mhz below your core clock is huge for stability and keeping your uncore voltage below 1.3 is also needed.
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