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Originally Posted by tru3man View Post

BATCH L310B487

Currently settled on 4.5 can get to 4.6 with this batch . Info below do the other voltages look ok for uncore and vrin ?









Hi,

Your settings look fine, nothing dangerous there.

Can you list your stress test, test length, cooling solution, etc? (The data asked in the original post.)
Thanks!

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Originally Posted by nitd_kim View Post

Currently at 4.4ghz with 1.15 volts. Temperatures at 70C (HWmonitor) and 60C (Asus Z87-Pro software) max. I don't have air conditioning so my ambients are really high plus I only have a 212 EVO with push/pull setup.

It seems like my cpu is a good one, but are my temperatures okay?

http://valid.canardpc.com/jtc60a

Stay under 95C under peak stress and you'll be fine, especially if the temps are under synthetics.

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Originally Posted by barkinos98 View Post

i've been running 43x at 1.2V but i've yet to tweak it. all i know it it cant even boot at 46x, not at 1.2V but at 1.25 too :/
1.25V and 46x is the highest i've tried, but this guide says its okay until 1.3V so when i get it all running again im just going to get the voltage to 1.3V and start from 46x biggrin.gif

is 85C too much for this chip IF i manage 46x or more on 1.3V? i've got a h100i and was wondering if its enough for such values.

I'm going to revise my guide soon when I'm not lazy.
The most important thing is you don't A) Run over 95C and B) Reach a higher voltage than 1.4-1.5v as the voltage above that may damage the CPU over time.
If you can for some reason or another run 1.3v without doing any of the above you're good.

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Originally Posted by tellis View Post

Wanted to share my results with you guys, I have hit a wall with my Costa Rica 4770k batch 3313A943. Stuck at 4.2 @ 1.25V. Swiftech Apogee XT water loop. Either my chip sucks, motherboard sucks or both. Went up to 1.36V vcore and unstable at 4.4, temps hit 90 (delid bare die).

Mobo: Asrock Z87 Extreme4 Bios 2.30
All Core Multi 42x
Vcore 1.25
CPU cache 35x
Cache voltage 1.15
CPU Input 1.90

Using latest version of prime95

Stock


4200 delid bare die

Thanks for the results Tellis but you are missing:

CPU cooling solution, ram speed, Batch number. Also if you want to be checked for picture verification you need HWinfo or HWmonitor showing Vcore value in same picture as stress test (but picture verification is not required to be listed).
Cheers! thumb.gif

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Originally Posted by sum1quiet View Post

Can you go ahead and put me into that Google Docs sheet, Darkwizzie? See below for my stats.

Username: sum1quiet
CPU Model: 4770k
Core Multiplier: 46
CPU VID: not sure what this value is on my Formula board, only voltage specified is the Vcore - rest is auto.
Vcore: 1.31
Uncore Multiplier: 44
Uncore Voltage: Auto
Cooling Solution: Custom Loop
Stability Test: IBT x10
Batch Number: L312B376
Ram Speed: XMP 1600

Results charted! thumb.gif

The CPU VID is the voltage you set for Vcore in the BIOS. The Vcore is the reading from Hwinfo or HWmonitor of the power your CPU core is actually drawing under max load. So I'll put your 1.31 Vcore as VID.

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Originally Posted by barkinos98 View Post

mine does like 70-75C under load at 43x and 1.2V; the temps rise according to voltages right?

 

Mostly the voltages, yes.

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Originally Posted by Clexzor View Post

Something intresting that ive noticed for those using windows 8 is that it appears to need more input voltage vccin/vrin to stay stable.... In other words and this on mutliple chips diff installs and diffrent mobos and sdd's including ram and psu to rule out anything else.

For example I can run 4.9ghz on win7 at 1.43v with vccin of 1.95 however...on Win8 the same overclock requires about a vccin of 1.98-2.0v to maintain stability on all levels. thumb.gif
Same bios versions btw 1.3 mpower max

Somebody else confirm this?

 

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Originally Posted by abombthecoder View Post

How bad is it to hit 100C occasionally when stressing? I imagine it can't be as bad as BSODing..

It's worse than Bsoding. Bsoding you just change settings, unless you did some unsafe parameters the Bsod will have no lasting effect on your computer. 100C won't outright kill the CPU but IMO it will in the long run... Just stop after it goes above 95C.

 

 

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I'm now using the OPs chess method just to see what kind of temps I get.

I'm trying for x45 Multi. When I tried 1.31v and VCCIO @ auto (~1.8v) it would fall over in around 3mins. When I raised VCCIO to 1.93v it ran 30mins. I then tried vcore @ 1.32v and VCCIO again at auto, fell over in 10mins. I've got LLC @ auto so the VCCIO is rising a 0.04v when pushed .. it does help at least.

I'm also using adaptive mode now so I'm not exactly 100% sure what my volts are, CPU-Z and/or Realtemp show 1.32v as above but then HWINFO would show 1.345v.

BTW: want to make it clear that at these volts there is no way to run Prime, IBT, XTU or whatever.

In my opinion this is what's happening: Realtemp and CPUZ are showing your CPU VID, which is the voltage you put into the BIOS and HWinfo/HWmonitor show the voltage the CPU is drawing right now. As you can see there is a difference. With adaptive if you set 1.3v into BIOS, you can end up with a 1.3v VID and a 1.5V Vcore if you run Prime under adaptive. Sure, you entered 1.3v in the BIOS but that's not what the CPU is drawing right now. Chess only bumps the voltage a small bit higher than your set maximum.


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Guide has been updated a bit under the voltages section.

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I have read a few posts about using handbrake along with some other things going in the background to help stress. I have never done encoding before so I figured I would try it out, I installed the program and decided to encode a movie but it only took like 6 minutes to do a dvd and this was at stock clocks, is this normal? I figured it would take longer to burn a movie to the HDD, therefore I would stress it longer. I have heard about people encoding for long periods of time, maybe I am missing something?
 
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6 minutes?
it took me about 20-30 mins to do on my mac, and that was a normal "bluray" quality movie, so 6 mins doesnt sound too incredible thumb.gif
 
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Just read elsewhere, ASUS boards new BIOS (1405), hopefully brings little something extra for us poor bastards with poor clockers.
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Still no G45 Gaming bios update. It's been 2-3 days.

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Still no G45 Gaming bios update. It's been 2-3 days.

Yup. frown.gif Although, it's meaningless for me to OC right now. How to send my 770s back to amazon... It's cool though, I'll be getting 780s now. wink.gif
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Just read elsewhere, ASUS boards new BIOS (1405), hopefully brings little something extra for us poor bastards with poor clockers.

sounds nice! I STILL havent tried more than 43x but could be really helpful for anyone i guess redface.gif
 
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How bad is it to hit 100C occasionally when stressing? I imagine it can't be as bad as BSODing..

Well it shouldn't ever go over 100 because it will begin to throttle itself at that point to stay out of the death zone. But that doesn't make it safe. If you are hitting 100C that means that you need better cooling or you need to lower your voltage/multi. I agree with Wizzie, stay under 95C and always monitor your temps if they are around this level for long periods of time.

What test are you using? I ask because it is ok to get it up to the 90s for short tests like IBT and Linpack. But if you are planning on doing long Prime/OCCT runs of several hours at that temp you can permanently damage or destroy your CPU. I always suggest being around for long stress tests to monitor temps because they can fluctuate for "blend" type tests. At the beginning it will read in the 70s but 15-30 mins later it can jump up to the 80s. That jump can easily kill a CPU at very high voltages or one with a stock cooler. Be careful fooling around with those temps, they are right at the edge of doing damage.
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I've been hanging out the TPU forums to see if people there have anything more to say about Haswell overclocking.

it seems that the stock VID is an indication of how well your CPU will overclock. when you CPU multi and everything to auto, you should see the stock VID when running Prime or some other stress test. According to AISuite, mine's stock VID is 1.07V. and that is a chip that usually maxes out at 43x or 44x multi. the best ones have less than 1V stock VID. they are the 49x clockers at 1.25V or something.

Depends... mine has a stock vid of 1.146v which is pretty high and it clocks well enough. I've seen people with lower vid that can't even get 4.5ghz. These cpus are just weird lol Sometimes I feel like getting another one of these to test out my luck. redface.gif
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