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so H80i is better 212 evo but worse than D12. is that correct?

D14 is better than H80i but H80i is better than 212 evo. Correct.

Stock -> 212 Evo -> D14 (For quietness)/Silver Arrow (For slightly better performance) -> x60 -> Custom loop

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if I want both ( quietness and performace) which one I should get?

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if I want both ( quietness and performace) which one I should get?

D14
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Silver Arrow

Personally I'd just get Silver Arrow, my case fans and GPU is louder than my heatsink so... no matter how quiet it is, it doesn't matter. Plus Silver Arrow is slightly cheaper.

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D14 is better than H80i but H80i is better than 212 evo. Correct.


Stock -> 212 Evo -> D14 (For quietness)/Silver Arrow (For slightly better performance) -> x60 -> Custom loop

Just to through some other options in there as far as the AIO's go, you could also consider H110 or Swiftech H220 or even the 320 if it fits your case.
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silly me, it is 2x120 radiator like h100i ?

X60 is 2x140.
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isn't it weird that some people say they almost hit 100C with a Vcore of 1.22V with H100i, when some people can go all the way up to 1.3V with similar cooling? to add more weirdness, the former can clock the CPU higher than the latter.

It's a matter of randomness with the glue height as described, and the vastly different testing methods that people use

http://imgur.com/a/DY1q6

Same cooler same everything, 1.29vcore bios in one pic, 1.1vcore bios in the other. It's kinda ridiculous that avx2 synethics run hotter than stuff running bios +0.2v higher and maxing the cpu (like x264 for example, an actual real world load, video encoder that uses and benefits greatly from avx and avx2), but i guess that's the cost of them running 3x as fast
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if I want both ( quietness and performace) which one I should get?

D14
or

Silver Arrow
get the Silver Arrow SB-E Extreme. not the standard. but you will need to use a fan controller (onboard or dedicated) because it is LOUD at max RPM. the fan's performance & noise curve is identical to the non-extreme version up to the max fan speed of the non-extreme version.

right now, i keep the fan speed at 900RPM-ish at idle. you cannot hear it up to 1100 (at least i cannot). after that it starts to become noticeable. After about 1500RPM, it becomes a bit irritating. (i prefer a silent PC). at max RPM, it is almost noisy as same H100i at max. but cooler.

i have configured the fan profile in AISuite so that even when stress testing, the fan speed doesn't go above 1200RPM. i'm pretty happy with the cooling in that range. once the temps exceed 75C (not core temp, but some value that AISuite calculates), then the RPM goes up rapidly. that hardly happens with my current OC. and it can only get better as the ambient is at peak these days.

but it is a pain in the ass to install.

with pull-pull config, you shouldn't have any RAM clearance issues.
Edited by Anusha - 8/30/13 at 10:55pm
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The fans on the Silver Arrow SB-E SE (version i have) are pretty good, ty-147's i think. They're quoted as 73.6cfm @21dba, and you can just run three fans in 140mm/150mm/140mm format - i'm not sure if it's worth to go further, does the silver arrow scale with airflow a noticable amount beyond that?

In the end, the 130cfm of the ty-143 (orange fan) wrecks the 73.6cfm of the ty-147 (white fan) but it does come at a big cost - being rated @45dba vs 21dba (+10 on dba scale = double percieved noise, to my understanding? Not 100% on this)

Is it worth it? Are there benchmarks out there for super high airflow setups scaling past that of non-super-noisy fans in 140/150/140mm or 140/140/140 setup? I'm curious
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the fan's performance & noise curve is identical to the non-extreme version up to the max fan speed of the non-extreme version

I was under the impression that the extreme fans (143's) were optimized for higher RPM, and made more noise at lower RPM or something along those lines, not really sure
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isn't it weird that some people say they almost hit 100C with a Vcore of 1.22V with H100i, when some people can go all the way up to 1.3V with similar cooling? to add more weirdness, the former can clock the CPU higher than the latter.
eek.gif
mine never went over 70-75C at 1.2V under a H100i and it wasnt just gaming load, it was a full blown folding load eek.gif

tough luck i guess, my chip fails to do 46x at 1.2 and at 1.25V (i havent tried more yet tbh) but it seems like its a cold chip, so theres that tongue.gif
 
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I had 80C at 1.2-1.25v on D14. That's on prime.

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Samsung Pro Series 840 256gb (Celapaleis) 1 TB Samsung Drive (Pack Yak) Samsung Pro Series 850 256gb (Celapaleis Reprise) Phoenix Down (External Backup) 
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Noctua D14 Kraken x61 Push-Pull for GPU Windows 10 Pro Catleap 2560x1440 @ 60hz 
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CM Storm Trigger Brown Switches EVGA Supernova 1000w P2 Corsair 540 Air Razer Abyssus 
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Steelseries QcK Mini Blue Yeti Microphone Objective Dac + Amp Sescom AB Switch 
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Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
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Logitech c920 Webcam NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller 
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