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Offset lets the voltage drop at idle, while manual keeps it fixed all the time. However, with Haswell chips on at least some motherboards (Gigabyte in particular, not sure about MSI) manual also lets the voltage drop at idle. So for those boards there really isn't a difference or benefit.
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what is the benefit of running offset voltage vs manual ?

My question is what is the benefit of running offset vs adaptive. I think offset might not be affected with the extra voltage under stress. Or at least, JJ didn't hint that offset was affected by it.

 

So offset drops voltage by a set offset.


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that is what i understood also, its like adaptive let it run wild biggrin.gif
    
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My question is what is the benefit of running offset vs adaptive. I think offset might not be affected with the extra voltage under stress. Or at least, JJ didn't hint that offset was affected by it.

So offset drops voltage by a set offset.

Offset adds or subtracts the offset from the VID at all voltage and frequency ranges. Adaptive only changes the voltage once you exceed the stock frequency range. So in theory adaptive is better because at idle and stock speeds you aren't adding additional voltage you don't need. In practice, however, I don't think it works the way everyone thought it would. Here's a picture:

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I don't fully understand the picture. I know depending on load my CPU voltage changes a lot, from under 0.5v to max volts to bit over max volts. That seems good to me.

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So, according to that graph, Offset mode shouldn't let the Vcore go wild when it sees an AVX application right? Lemme check that out and report back.
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So, according to that graph, Offset mode shouldn't let the Vcore go wild when it sees an AVX application right? Lemme check that out and report back.

In theory, but I'm not sure the actual motherboard implementation works out like those charts.
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In theory, but I'm not sure the actual motherboard implementation works out like those charts.
it works just like Adaptive. frown.gif

I set to 4.2GHz, +0.100 offset. In Windows, running Cinebench, CPU-Z showed a Vcore of 1.280V. I ran AIDA64 stress test and it shoot the Vcore to 1.392V. It seem the extra Voltage IVR requests when it detect AVX load is also simply offsetted. At least on my Hero with 711 bios.

Dammit! Guess I will have to run in manual mode then.
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for me in msi bios i have options for offset auto/+/- and amount and when i set to auto or + its always +offset amount that i put i guess if you want it to scale down you need all energy states enabled.
    
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OK, peeps here are my results on custom water:

i5 4670K
Vcore 4.5GHz@1.25V
Uncore 4.0GHz@1.25V
VCCSA +0.15V
VIOA +0.15V
VIOD +0.15V

Mid 80's under IBT stress test and I will probably leave it there, it is nearly as much as my old i5 2500K.

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