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Lastly, I think your Uncore/Cache Voltage is high .. you try bringing it down. It will help the temps a lot.
I found that 1.265 cache voltage crashes the large FFT test in Prime95 after less than 10 minutes. 1.27 is okay, so I guess that brings it down a little from 1.275.
    
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I am gonna do some benchmarking but setting my ram to 800mhz (400x2) = 6-6-6-18-1T, 1066mhz 7-7-7-20-1T. Doing memory benchmarks the 1066mhz has 25ns access time compared to 1600mhz which is around 50+ but the lower speeds suffer bandwidth. For gaming would I see more results with faster access time compared to faster bandwidth?

1600mhz = 10-10-10-28-1T

I didn't see anyone comment on this but I would be interested in your results. I recently overclocked my 1600 9-9-9-24 2t 1.5v ram to 2133 10-12-12-31 2t 1.65v (just pulled the timings from the same brand 2133 as my 1600) just to see if there was any point in doing so. I was quite surprised at the results. Going from 1600 to 2133 at the timings listed above produced an fps increase that was roughly equal to a 350MHz overclock on the processor cores in a source engine game that was truly CPU bound.

Has anyone heard anything bad happening by running 1.65v ram voltage 24/7? I'm not at all worried about the sticks themselves, more so worried about the processor.
Edited by Derp - 9/3/14 at 2:26am
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I'm trying to 


Both of you have been charted, thank you.
Thanks for that, and I must say that I found your spread-sheet useful for comparing against other people's results to help get a feel of what is typically achievable and what is somewhat normal.

One corrections though, my CPU is 4790K, not 4690K.

I'm also working on lowering my cache voltage a little to 1.27, but should really re-run other tests first.
    
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I found that 1.265 cache voltage crashes the large FFT test in Prime95 after less than 10 minutes. 1.27 is okay, so I guess that brings it down a little from 1.275.

Frankly .. when I got my first haswell, out of habit, I used to stress tests with Prime95 but then I realized Prime stable is not really stable (it would crash during games and normal usage). I ended up trying quite a few tools / combinations of tools and in the end have stuck to XTU Bench, x264, XTU Stress and Aida (in this order). So now, I consider an OC stable when it passes the following. And I have never had my PC crash doing anything once it has passed this cycle. And when I sayou never I mean never ..

XTU Bench x 10 (with restart after every 3-4 runs)
x264 x 8 hours ~ 75-80 loops
XTU Stress x 8 hours
Aida64 x 8 hours (CPU, Cache, FPU, Memory together)
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I didn't see anyone comment on this but I would be interested in your results. I recently overclocked my 1600 9-9-9-24 2t 1.5v ram to 2133 10-12-12-31 2t 1.65v (just pulled the timings from the same brand 2133 as my 1600) just to see if there was any point in doing so. I was quite surprised at the results. Going from 1600 to 2133 at the timings listed above produced an fps increase that was roughly equal to a 350MHz overclock on the processor cores in a source engine game that was truly CPU bound.

Has anyone heard anything bad happening by running 1.65v ram voltage 24/7? I'm not at all worried about the sticks themselves, more so worried about the processor.

125mhz x 35 = 4375mhz - 3500Mhz Uncore - 1666mhz 9-9-9-27-1T (1600mhz 10-10-10-28-1T stock).


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Following this chart it doesn't make sense to keep stable @ 1866mhz at 11-12-12-30-1T when I can run 9-9-9-27-1T @ 1666mhz making it little bit faster

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Hi guys,

found some interesting settings in my BIOS yesterday evening. Don't know if its posted allready, if so, pl0x forgive me wink.gif

People here want their CPU overclocked, but also want it to clock down in speed and voltage when it is idle.
It does all of this when BIOS settings are reverted to stock.

You may have noticed once you start entering voltage values the voltage will stay the same and only the speed will decrease.
Changing all the power saving features don't seem to do much, voltage stays the same only speed drops.

I found this on my Asus Maximus VI Extreme motherboard. Probably all other high-end Asus motherboard will have the same feature.
And it is very very easy without trying out hundreds of settings these motherboard have to offer.
So how to overclock your CPU and still make it drop in volts and speed when idle?

1) Go to your BIOS and reset to default settings. Save settings and reboot.
2) Go back to your BIOS.
3) Go to the Extreme Tweaker page.
4) Go to: "Overclock Presets"
5) Load the Gamer OC Profile.

Now go back to the Extreme Tweakers page. You will notice a whole bunch of settings have been configured automatically. But of course there is more to be adjusted!

This is how to configure the Gamer OC BIOS profile without some settings getting adjusted automatically causing the power saving settings to be reverted.

1) Set your AI Tuner to Manual or XMP.
2) In XMP, select your memory profile.
3) In Manual; set your memory speed and timings.
4) Set "CPU Core Ratio" back to "Per Core" and dial in the core speeds. (Changing memory speed makes it hop back to "Sync All Cores" causing the power saving to fail. So revert this to "Per Core"!)
5) Leave all other settings like "PLL Overvoltage" untouched. VRM's are allready set to Extreme, LLC is set to level 8.
6) Set the needed "CPU Voltage" and "Cache Voltage". It will be on override; so typ in the voltage it is stable at. Like mine does 4.7Ghz @ 1.350V, so I set it to 1.350V.
7) Set needed Eventual Input.
8) Set needed Memory voltage.

Save BIOS and have a look at CPU-Z!



You will notice the voltages drop even to a 0.3V cuz the Asus board reduces the Vcore even more on idle than Intel does!
Once the CPU gains some load you will notice the speed increasing and the override voltage kicking in.

Any questions? Ask em here or send me a PM!
Edited by koekwau5 - 9/3/14 at 4:29am
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Yeah, I know how to do it in MSI G45, but not on any other motherboard. It's all different for each mobo and the options are all scrambled in different places/naming-schemes/functions, it's hard to tell.

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Yeah, I know how to do it in MSI G45, but not on any other motherboard. It's all different for each mobo and the options are all scrambled in different places/naming-schemes/functions, it's hard to tell.
it looks like a form of adaptive.
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it looks like a form of adaptive.

Not on my end.

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Not on my end.
vid doesnt drop at idle?
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Seasonic G-750  Fractal Design R5 G700s HDHOMERUN 3 TUNER CABLE CARD 
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4770k 4.5ghz @1.29v asus z87-A EVGA 4gb GTX 970 FTW 1510mhz 8000mem 1.23v Adata XPG 8GB @ 2400mhz 11-13-13-35-1 
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128GB sandisk extreme SSD 2 tb Western digital media intel 530 128 gb SSD External LG BD RW 
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EK Coolstream 360mm PE Rad  Gentle typhoon AP-15 X 3 Fractal Design 140mm 1000RPM X3 Fractal Design Venturi High Flow Series 140mm F... 
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Bitspower DDC Heatsink Black EK Coolstream XTC 140mm Rad EK Supremecy MX  EK FC980 Strix Water Block 
CoolingCoolingOSKeyboard
swiftech MCP-35X EK XRES 140 DDC Top WIN 7 ULTIMATE smk link 
PowerCaseMouseOther
Seasonic G-750  Fractal Design R5 G700s HDHOMERUN 3 TUNER CABLE CARD 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k 4.5ghz @1.29v asus z87-A EVGA 4gb GTX 970 FTW 1510mhz 8000mem 1.23v Adata XPG 8GB @ 2400mhz 11-13-13-35-1 
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OCZ VERTEX 3 90GB 1tb 7200 Seagate hybrid  D5 vario Primo chill 120mm D5 Compression Res 
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Swiftech MCR-320 XP 360mm rad Swiftech MCR-320 XP 120mm rad EK Supreme LTX Cpu block Biitspower ACX GTX 970 Water block 
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