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Twocables got mad at me when I said he/she should CTRL+F "safe" to find safe voltage values before posting a question. People are weird.

Whoa, that's really weird.
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I got your point. It's really quite annoying to see the same question. I guess we are lucky enough to still receive answers.thumb.gif

No, you missed my point completely....My point was you should look through the pages of this thread, there is a lot of info in there that will help you out - both questions that you may have asked, along with questions that you might not even think to ask.
Edited by blaze2210 - 10/19/14 at 12:48am
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I got your point. It's really quite annoying to see the same question. I guess we are lucky enough to still receive answers.thumb.gif

Well, some people are very patient, some people have to take breaks from the thread, but since I started this thread it's my baby, I'm not driving people away from it by posting antagonizing posts to newbies, lol. DC is already out and it's not too long until the next i5 skus pop up, so drastically overhauling my thread has limited returns. Also, I've been lazy.

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Whoa, that's really weird.
No, you missed my point completely....My point was you should look through the pages of this thread, there is a lot of info in there that will help you out - both questions that you may have asked, along with questions that you might not even think to ask.

Yes, for example... many people won't ask "Will running Prime with adaptive cause an overload"?

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Some results with my delided 4790K (Liquid Ultra + MX4) cooled by H110 & 2x NH-A14 PWM.






I decided to test with 1,200V (adaptive) and....




4,7GHz:





What kind of temps you are getting during Prime95 Small test? I'm getting hotter temps than what IBT can produce and for that reason I can't hit 4,7 without getting 91C or such during Prime95 Small test. My CPU requires about 1,27-1,28V for 4,7GHz. Other than that it seems to be pretty good one.

Opinions, suggestions?
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Hello
I started overclocking again. So i noticed on my new mobo that i got to set my uncore to auto so the uncore to go from 800 to 4000 if its set to x34 it staying at x34.
Am i mistaking or its always been this way i haven't stopped fallowing the tread so i thought to ask biggrin.gif
My C states are all on auto exept C3.
I am with Gigabyte Z97X UD3H and a i5 4670k.
My current OC is:

Core:x42
Vcore:1.182v
Uncore:Auto so it could go to x40 and downcloack
Vring:1.18v in bios
LLC:High
Vrin:1.8v
Ram:1333 no XMP
Edited by ludkoto - 10/20/14 at 12:01pm
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What kind of temps you are getting during Prime95 Small test? I'm getting hotter temps than what IBT can produce and for that reason I can't hit 4,7 without getting 91C or such during Prime95 Small test. My CPU requires about 1,27-1,28V for 4,7GHz. Other than that it seems to be pretty good one.

Opinions, suggestions?

Small fft is hot. If you use a version of linpack (ibt) that's not out of date, you can get hotter temps out of that though. About 210gflops at 4ghz is doable, but i've seen 230-something at higher clocks. It's hard without melting a hole through your motherboard biggrin.gif

For stability testing, you can use 27.9 with fft ~1344, or if you really want a harder test, a few large fft's on newest prime v 28. Hotter doesn't neccesarily mean a harder to pass test, and some of the hardest to pass tests are like 30-40c colder than the hottest tests in some scenarios
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Prime95 was a great stress test for years but with these new processors I've found that Realbench stress or 264 is a far better test for stability. After I pass 24 hours of encoding I've NEVER had a bsod or lockup with any game or program but 6 hours of prime will bsod. I just think it puts far more stress on the processor than you would ever see with normal use.
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Prime95 was a great stress test for years but with these new processors I've found that Realbench stress or 264 is a far better test for stability. .

Prime is still an excellent test if you need true stability. All stock processors will pass 24+ hours of the latest prime without issue. If your overclock cannot do the same then you have lost stability. x264 or realbench might be a better choice for most people who only need "stable enough" but those test aren't better at finding instabilities than prime.
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Small fft is hot. If you use a version of linpack (ibt) that's not out of date, you can get hotter temps out of that though. About 210gflops at 4ghz is doable, but i've seen 230-something at higher clocks. It's hard without melting a hole through your motherboard biggrin.gif

For stability testing, you can use 27.9 with fft ~1344, or if you really want a harder test, a few large fft's on newest prime v 28. Hotter doesn't neccesarily mean a harder to pass test, and some of the hardest to pass tests are like 30-40c colder than the hottest tests in some scenarios


I wasn's sure is 1344k/1792k FFT hard enough for Haswells too but I need to test it. The thing is that my CPU is very cool at any other Prime/IBT test except latest version's (28.5) Small test. That was so annoying because other tests were like ~72C with 1,280V only except Small test (about 92C).

So obviously latest version 28.5 is not the best one for stability testing? No I don't want to melt my CPU so I'm not hunting insane heat tests for the sake of heat. tongue.gif


ps. What comes for 24/7 stability there is no single app which can promise you that. I'm sure the best way to ensure is just to use as many apps and games you regulary use and over time you will know is it stable or not. smile.gif Sure there can be some exceptions but in general the more of everything the better. smile.gif
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I wasn's sure is 1344k/1792k FFT hard enough for Haswells too but I need to test it. The thing is that my CPU is very cool at any other Prime/IBT test except latest version's (28.5) Small test. That was so annoying because other tests were like ~72C with 1,280V only except Small test (about 92C).

So obviously latest version 28.5 is not the best one for stability testing? No I don't want to melt my CPU so I'm not hunting insane heat tests for the sake of heat. tongue.gif


ps. What comes for 24/7 stability there is no single app which can promise you that. I'm sure the best way to ensure is just to use as many apps and games you regulary use and over time you will know is it stable or not. smile.gif Sure there can be some exceptions but in general the more of everything the better. smile.gif
single app? No. The op explains multiple tests as the best way.

This is how I find stability:


I make sure it can run prime95 28.5 for about 2 minutes first thing.

I just want vcore high enough its not instant freezing when I start custom 1344 1344 settings. I found this saves me time and I get no random bsods later.

I run xtu bench a few times and make adjustments if needed then do the longer x264 run. Do how many loops you feel like you need. I am happy with 10 but many ppl do 50 or more.

It will pass x264 the first try more often if you do those things first. Its a away to use prime and not deal with the heat or risk all that degradation too.

Good luck.
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due to my gaming 3 motherboard only running 3.0 16x & 2.0 4x PCI-e configuration on r9 290 crossfire. I upgraded the motherboard to MSI Z97 mpower max ac.

Fresh Windows 8.1 install and kept getting BSOD which are memory fault errors. Downloaded latest memtest on USB and it kept freezing on test #7. Tried default settings, higher voltages and after duckduckgo searching I found out the latest memtest has problems with some CPU when running test #7 (random move block)

Back to stock ram settings XMP profile (2400Mhz) and running prime95. Seems like I can't trust memtest with its issues on some CPUs

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