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an update on the random reboots without BSODs i had been getting while stress testing.

I was getting them even at 4.3GHz/1.24V.

i reinstalled Windows and did not install AISuite III. that happened Saturday. I had run Handbrake for many hours without any failure. it could be OS corruption after the gazillion BSODs I got while tuning the OC, a driver issue (but i have the same drivers installed) or AISuite III. many people say AISuite craps up the system. but i really want the Fan Xpert software frown.gif Maybe i should look into Speedfan)

tempted to set OC back to 4.4/1.285V but that makes the CPU run hotter and it is not Prime95 AVX stable (but using adaptive would fix that for every other app i suppose). maybe i would stick to 4.3/1.24 and tweak the power delivery settings to optimize for efficiency now.
Edited by Anusha - 9/1/13 at 7:53pm
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this is 20 min idle temp and stuff (stock cooler)



roomtemp is 83F

do u guys think I did not put enough AS5 in there?



same room temp
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an update on the random reboots without BSODs i had been getting while stress testing.

I was getting them even at 4.3GHz/1.24V.

i reinstalled Windows and did not install AISuite III. that happened Saturday. I had run Handbrake for many hours without any failure. it could be OS corruption after the gazillion BSODs I got while tuning the OC, a driver issue (but i have the same drivers installed) or AISuite III. many people say AISuite craps up the system. but i really want the Fan Xpert software frown.gif Maybe i should look into Speedfan)

tempted to set OC back to 4.4/1.285V but that makes the CPU run hotter and it is not Prime95 AVX stable (but using adaptive would fix that for every other app i suppose). maybe i would stick to 4.3/1.24 and tweak the power delivery settings to optimize for efficiency now.

You are also a member of ROG forums right? About a week or so ago I read in a thread that Asus AI Suite III was responsible for higher Vcore readings. A member had completed their overclock (on Haswel) only to decide to install AI Suite 3 afterwards. He reported a raise in Vcore without making any changes in BIOS, or to AI Suite Digi+ settings. It only went up around 0.010-0.015V, but that shows that it has an effect on your OC just being installed.

Removing it is another story and can be a pain to just uninstall. I recently had to remove it entirely and reinstall it because it wouldn't update properly and was causing error messages upon startup. I had to first uninstall every program associated with it with Revo Uninstaler. The standard uninstaller wouldn't work because a few of the programs were corrupted. I then had to use the AI Suite III Removal Tool found in the ROG forums, but it still wasn't entirely uninstalled. I had to manually delete some of the files and folders left in the AI Suite directory and then I ran CCleaner to scrub the registry. Only then was it totally gone and then I reinstalled it without any issues. I mainly only use Thermal Radar, but I have USB 3.0 Boost, EZ Update, Sys Info, and BIOS Flashback installed. I would advise against Remote Go! unless you really need it because it can cause performance issues apparently. I hope if you decide to remove it you have an easier time than I did. Let me know if it helps your stability or if it lowers your Vcore, I am interested to see if it has a effect.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rickyman0319 View Post

this is 20 min idle temp and stuff (stock cooler)



roomtemp is 83F

do u guys think I did not put enough AS5 in there?



same room temp

Did you just get lower temps on stock cooler than H80? Lol.

 

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Originally Posted by Anusha View Post

an update on the random reboots without BSODs i had been getting while stress testing.

I was getting them even at 4.3GHz/1.24V.

i reinstalled Windows and did not install AISuite III. that happened Saturday. I had run Handbrake for many hours without any failure. it could be OS corruption after the gazillion BSODs I got while tuning the OC, a driver issue (but i have the same drivers installed) or AISuite III. many people say AISuite craps up the system. but i really want the Fan Xpert software frown.gif Maybe i should look into Speedfan)

tempted to set OC back to 4.4/1.285V but that makes the CPU run hotter and it is not Prime95 AVX stable (but using adaptive would fix that for every other app i suppose). maybe i would stick to 4.3/1.24 and tweak the power delivery settings to optimize for efficiency now.

Bsods can crap up the OS?

 

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Okay guys, it's been LONG over due for me....but I FINALLY got my damn Maximus 6 Hero and 4670k. The Tustin MC seriously NEVER had the Hero in stock until now (over 2 months later).

Anyway I'm gonna see how well binned my 4670k is. Has alot changed since around early August? I plan to do the following to quickly bin my CPU

- Manually input 34x uncore
- Manually input DRAM settings, not XMP (1.35v, 9-9-9-24, 1600mhz)
- Manual Voltage first, then adaptive later
- Manually "enable" C3 C6 C7
- I plan to leave everything else in AUTO. I've worked with a Z87 Sabertooth before, and the auto rules on that board were kick ass.

Is there anything else you guys discovered to help with stability, or improve OC? Other than that, I plan to go straight to 4.5ghz and see how far it can go. I'm not looking for world records....anything over 4.6ghz is a huge bonus for me. But I wouldn't mind settling for 4.5 or 4.6ghz.

Not that much has changed, no.

There has been some new talk about Input Voltage, a few say it's important for their stability once they start pushing the higher voltages (1.35v or higher). Some set it to 1.9, 2.0. I wouldn't go higher than 2.0, not really safe. A minority also tout the SA/Io voltages as useful for helping stability by a bit. I am running a +0.135v offset. Anything more than +0.15 to 0.175v and you're in completely uncharted territory though.

 

Prime got a new update that seems to be more punishing than the previous versions.
Some people are raving over Intel's extreme tuning utility aka XTU.

Some new versions of programs like CPUz, HWinfo, etc.

 

Looking forward to hearing your results.

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It works now. It fixed a couple of things and messed up others. Mouse is smoother into the bios now, but the text is now all over the place, hard to explain. I still can't set 1080p because my screen isn't that res and well... it looks messy. Now I have to go to classic mode, way better. Base clock is now 100mhz, before it was 99.77? lol My stock VID went from 1.146 to 1.086 too. I wonder if this bios will let me oc better!!

With such a new launch of a platform I feel a BIOS update is often quite desired, there may be a lot of glitches that need to be worked out for such a new product.

 

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Originally Posted by Clexzor View Post

Touch my Haswell!! tongue.gif thumb.gif

Oh dear, that sounds like a naughty comment. thumb.gif biggrin.gif

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bartouille View Post


I'm currently using the bios that came with the board, surely not the latest. I'm not really into bios updating on motherboards but if I can't find a way to solve this I may have to do it. Thanks for the advice. redface.gif

Meh, the chances of bricking one nowadays are very slim. I update it like a graphics driver now, lol.

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I am going to open the side door. is that okay?

Yes. The drawback is you will get dust in there much quicker than you otherwise would but IIRC you're getting an AC soon so it won't matter.

Quote:
Originally Posted by rickyman0319 View Post


how cold does it suppose be anyway ?

do u think I short circuit the cpu?

if I test it out with stock cooler, I should do stock speed & everthing. is that correct?

I think if you short circuit the CPU will stop working and it'll be extra cool due to the fact it's not functioning, lol.

I suppose you can test it. Gotta get the AC working asap, not only for your computer's sake but your sanity's sake, my god.

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if stock temp is better than H80I , what does that really mean?

H80I temp is 4.0ghz not stock speed & voltage

stock temp mean stock speed and voltage

l

later this noon or tonite (9/2)

I will be doing with H80i with stock speed and voltage
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if stock temp is better than H80I , what does that really mean?

H80I temp is 4.0ghz not stock speed & voltage

stock temp mean stock speed and voltage

Oh, thought you meant with stock cooler at overclocked settings.

Unless I'm reading it wrongly,. you're testing h80i vs stock cooler. If that's correct, you need to set them both to same speed/voltage else there is no way to compare.

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is any of you running in offset mode
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is any of you running in offset mode

For Io/SA voltages, yes. Otherwise, no. Don't see reason to use it atm.

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CM Storm Trigger Brown Switches EVGA Supernova 1000w P2 Corsair 540 Air Razer Abyssus 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Steelseries QcK Mini Blue Yeti Microphone Objective Dac + Amp Sescom AB Switch 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
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Logitech c920 Webcam NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller 
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Celapaleis (2013)
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
7600k @ 5.197/1.392 1.392v z170 Asus Hero EVGA 1080ti SC Black (2100/6250) x2 8gb GSkill Trident Z 3600 @ 3804 15-15-15-32-2T 
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Samsung 950 Pro 512gb (Undelwalt) WD Red 2tb (Pack Yak II) Seagate Expansion Drive 5tb (Phoenix Down II) 3x560mm HardwareLabs Nemesis GTX 
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XPSC Raystorm Pro Watercool Heatkiller 1080ti Full Cover Waterblock EK XTOP Revo Dual D5 (Serial, PWM, v4) EK ZMT (1/2 - 3/4 ID OD) 
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14xEK ACF (Compression Fittings) EK x4 250 (v2) Distilled Water + PT Nuke (Copper Sulphate) 24x140mm Silent Wings 3 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro 64bit Catleap 27 Inch 2560x1440 IPS 60hz Display Coolermaster Storm Trigger (Brown Switches) EVGA P2 1000w 
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Corsair Air 540 Logitech G Pro Tek Syndicate "Raze the World" Desk Mat O2 + Odac by Mayflower Electronics (Rev A) 
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Sennheiser HD 800 2xKrk Rokit 6 G2 Blue Yeti (Grey) Rode PSA-1 Arm 
Other
Aquaero 6 LT + Aluminum Heatsink 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 6600k Delid @ 4.848/4.848 Asus z170 Hero MSI GTX 980ti @ 1499/4082 1.25v/134% Power 2 x 8gb Gskills Ripjaws V 3131 16-16-16-32 
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Samsung Pro Series 840 256gb (Celapaleis) 1 TB Samsung Drive (Pack Yak) Samsung Pro Series 850 256gb (Celapaleis Reprise) Phoenix Down (External Backup) 
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Noctua D14 Kraken x61 Push-Pull for GPU Windows 10 Pro Catleap 2560x1440 @ 60hz 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Storm Trigger Brown Switches EVGA Supernova 1000w P2 Corsair 540 Air Razer Abyssus 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Steelseries QcK Mini Blue Yeti Microphone Objective Dac + Amp Sescom AB Switch 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
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Thanks for the reply Darkwizzie. Btw I heard constant crashing and BSODs can eventually corrupt the OS. I heard you REALLY have to crash alot, and push the chip to its limit for it to happen. It won't happen if you only crash like, 10 times
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5 4670k 4.6GHz 1.24v Asus Maximus VI Hero EVGA GTX 780 ACX x2 SLI 16gb G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz CL10 
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Samsung 840 PRO 256gb Noctua NH-D15 Windows 8.1 PRO 64 Bit Dell UltraSharp U3011 30inch 2560x1600 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
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Intel Core i5 4670k 4.6GHz 1.24v Asus Maximus VI Hero EVGA GTX 780 ACX x2 SLI 16gb G.Skill Trident X 2400mhz CL10 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung 840 PRO 256gb Noctua NH-D15 Windows 8.1 PRO 64 Bit Dell UltraSharp U3011 30inch 2560x1600 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
Seasonic X-850 80+ Gold Cooler Master HAF X Logitech G602 Corsair Vengeance MM200 
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Just got my new 4670k and UD4H yesterday along with some G. Skill 1866 RAM. Had to scratch my overclocking itch coming from an i7 920 D0 @ 4.0.

Started OCing as soon as I got Win7 installed. Got to 4.4 stable at 1.18v VCore in BIOS, 1.7v VRIN Override, and 1.05v Uncore. Here's a ss with 6hrs of OCCT passed. I also passed 15 passes of IBT before that too. Using a Prolimatech Megahalems with Shin Etsu X23-7783D.

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