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qhash, you may require higher input voltage and/or input voltage LLC when raising vcore past a certain level (otherwise there are walls where more vcore won't help)
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qhash, you may require higher input voltage and/or input voltage LLC when raising vcore past a certain level (otherwise there are walls where more vcore won't help)
OK, I have been reading and hearing a lot about LLC but I still do not know how that function is called in MSI BIOS. I do not have Load Line Calibration option present. Can you advise on that?
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OK, I have been reading and hearing a lot about LLC but I still do not know how that function is called in MSI BIOS. I do not have Load Line Calibration option present. Can you advise on that?

The LLC is called Vdroop in MSI board you can find them in digital Power menu (100% value should be fine )
   
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OK, I have been reading and hearing a lot about LLC but I still do not know how that function is called in MSI BIOS. I do not have Load Line Calibration option present. Can you advise on that?

The LLC is to help deal with droop on the Input voltage. Lacking that, you can just use a higher input voltage instead

see post above^ and try input volt of 1.95 instead of 1.8, if it works then you can fine tune it afterwards. Use minimal vcore, overkilling on vcore can make it even harder to get stable
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Thanks to both of you. Acutally I had Vdroop set to 100% for some tests, but as I could not see any difference, I left that on auto. Is that working even though I have my Vcore set to "override" (manual in most of other BIOS)?
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Thanks to both of you. Acutally I had Vdroop set to 100% for some tests, but as I could not see any difference, I left that on auto. Is that working even though I have my Vcore set to "override" (manual in most of other BIOS)?

The LLC is stabilize the Input voltage only nothing related to the vcore & also with dual core chip i would say 1.9v + 100% Vdroop more than enough maybe you hit the wall for that chip its the silicon all the time!
   
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Might be so.

I have noticed that stability tests without GPU being involved were fine @ 1.26Vcore. Problem occured when I have added GPU to the stress test. Got blue screen after 1hr or so. Now, 4.4GHz stable @ 1.75Vcore. Unfortunately my temps rose to 75-79 C.

Setting Vcore 1.32, x45 multiplier, Vfrop 100%, Vin 1.95 did not bring stability even for a short moment - just have tested that wink.gif
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Might be so.

I have noticed that stability tests without GPU being involved were fine @ 1.26Vcore. Problem occured when I have added GPU to the stress test. Got blue screen after 1hr or so. Now, 4.4GHz stable @ 1.75Vcore. Unfortunately my temps rose to 75-79 C.

Setting Vcore 1.32, x45 multiplier, Vfrop 100%, Vin 1.95 did not bring stability even for a short moment - just have tested that wink.gif

The stability test is Asus realbench ? if yes a lot of people have problem with that you can use some heavy games as stability test ( GTA V & BF4 & BF3 )

also at 44 multi you still faster than some I3 chip thumb.gif
   
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Thanks to both of you. Acutally I had Vdroop set to 100% for some tests, but as I could not see any difference, I left that on auto. Is that working even though I have my Vcore set to "override" (manual in most of other BIOS)?

As Mr-Dark and the OP noted, LLC affects input voltage under load for Haswell chips.

 

My preference is to first find a stable setting, and move up from there. How much more voltage do I need to use to get some resemblance of stability? If I'm up 0.1v and no change, then I think that points strongly to input voltage that needs tweaking.

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As Mr-Dark and the OP noted, LLC affects input voltage under load for Haswell chips.

My preference is to first find a stable setting, and move up from there. How much more voltage do I need to use to get some resemblance of stability? If I'm up 0.1v and no change, then I think that points strongly to input voltage that needs tweaking.
An this should be raised?
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Crucial MX100 256gb Seagate Barracuda 2tb Corsair H70 Windows 7 Pro 64bit 
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AOC 24 inch 144hz  Razer Blackwidow chroma EVGA 850 G Silient Corsair Air 540 
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Razer Deathadder Chroma Generic On-board Audio 
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Core i7 920 D0@ 4.2 1.25625 vcore EVGA Classified 760 EVGA GTX 470 SC+ EVGA GTX 470 SC+ 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Corsair Dominator GT 1866 3x2 gbs 1TB Samsung Spinpoint Lite-On DVD drive EK Supreme LTX Water Block 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
EK EVGA Classified Full Motherboard Block EK GTX 470 Acetal/Copper Water Block EK GTX 470 Acetal/Copper Water Block Winows 7 PRO 64 bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Samsung ToC 24" Razer Black Widow Seasonic Platinum 1000 watt CoolerMaster HAF 932 
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Logitech G5 
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