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post #18321 of 19603
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Originally Posted by Guitarminator View Post

I did run it. Just irritated that I had to guess what to do instead of it being explained in the so called "Instructions".
Given how overclocking is so NOT a straightforward process and can be potentially detrimental to components in the system if done or tested incorrectly, I was less than thrilled with a tool that left me to guess if I was using it correctly.
As stated previously, I could have asked here but, I wouldn't have to with 2 more simple sentences in the usage instructions.
The thing is, I see this type of thing way too often with software of all types. Most recently, backup software when switching from Windows backup to something with more features.
I swear, people who write software assume way too much when attempting to explain how to use it.
Hence the need for numerous support forums for virtually every product out there.
I do understand that software is inherently complicated but, many times it is made more so by incomplete documentation. Of course there is the fact that there are few that actually RTFM. smile.gif

I guess I just don't see where x264 is difficult to use, the 4 prompts are pretty self-explanatory. You can always go with kl6mk6's suggestion, and run RealBench. It has an x264 test built in it, and the options are more "user-friendly". thumb.gif
post #18322 of 19603
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Originally Posted by kl6mk6 View Post

Download Realbench, It's my primary stresser. It's simple. Just click stress and run. Don't give up so quickly, It took me months to get my OC tuned in just right, and it motivated me into the world of custom water cooling.

I understand that you are trying to encourage me but, what you have really done is discourage me. I don't even want to spend 2 days trying to get a stable OC, let alone months.
I just feel like my time would be better spent practicing, writing, performing and recording the music I have in my head. It needs to be transferred to a more permanent medium. Even if it sucks to others, I like it. I'll never know if someone else feels the same until I get it done.

I do want to apologize to you, kl6mk6, again though. After reading back through our interaction here, I recognize that I overreacted to your initial comment and did the very thing I accused you of. I was a douche and I'm sorry.
+rep for being the bigger person.

I may try OC'ing if at some point this PC is unable to keep up with what I want to do. As of now, stock is doing just fine.

Thanks again kl6mk6!
post #18323 of 19603
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Originally Posted by Guitarminator View Post

I understand that you are trying to encourage me but, what you have really done is discourage me. I don't even want to spend 2 days trying to get a stable OC, let alone months.
I just feel like my time would be better spent practicing, writing, performing and recording the music I have in my head. It needs to be transferred to a more permanent medium. Even if it sucks to others, I like it. I'll never know if someone else feels the same until I get it done.

I do want to apologize to you, kl6mk6, again though. After reading back through our interaction here, I recognize that I overreacted to your initial comment and did the very thing I accused you of. I was a douche and I'm sorry.
+rep for being the bigger person.

I may try OC'ing if at some point this PC is unable to keep up with what I want to do. As of now, stock is doing just fine.

Thanks again kl6mk6!

The amount of time that is necessary also kinda depends on how far you're trying to push your components. One could potentially get a mild OC tuned in a couple of days, whereas finding the limits would certainly take longer. It all depends on what your goal is.
post #18324 of 19603
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Originally Posted by blaze2210 View Post

I guess I just don't see where x264 is difficult to use, the 4 prompts are pretty self-explanatory. You can always go with kl6mk6's suggestion, and run RealBench. It has an x264 test built in it, and the options are more "user-friendly". thumb.gif

x264 is not difficult to use but, it could be made much easier with minimal effort. Most especially for an absolute beginner with no knowledge at all. That's the point I was making.
post #18325 of 19603
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Originally Posted by blaze2210 View Post

The amount of time that is necessary also kinda depends on how far you're trying to push your components. One could potentially get a mild OC tuned in a couple of days, whereas finding the limits would certainly take longer. It all depends on what your goal is.

I'm getting that from the little research that I've done. It's not worth it for me right now.
More power to you people though. You all have much more patience and motivation than I. thumb.gif
post #18326 of 19603
Sounds good! Whenever you have free time, it wouldn't be a bad idea to just read through the posts in this forum. After reading through the posts, virtually every single question that I had when I was starting out with Haswell was answered. There have been a lot of very informative conversations that have happened in this thread. thumb.gif

Even if you don't read through the thread, there are always people here to help out. biggrin.gif
post #18327 of 19603
I know stress testing for stability is a subjective area of expertise, but I am looking for some food for thought before I continue to push my OC. Should I continue to do a little more stability testing or just press on until i hit issues?

Overclock: 4.4Ghz
VID: 1.200V (1.202V)
Cache: 3.5Ghz
Cache V: 1.15V
V Input: 1.80V
Temps: 77,79,78,73C
RAM: Gskill ripjawsx 2133
RAM Speed: 1333Mhz
RAM Timings: 9,9,9,24, 1T
RAM V: 1.55V
Stress Test: IBT v2.54 very high 20/20 runs

Overclock: 4.5Ghz
VID: 1.200V (1.202V)
Cache: 3.5Ghz
Cache V: 1.15
V Input: 1.80V
Temps: 77,80,78,74
RAM: Gskill ripjawsx 2133
RAM Speed: 1333Mhz
RAM Timings: 9,9,9,24, 1T
RAM V: 1.55V
Stress Test: IBT v2.54 very high 10/10 runs EDIT: did a second run of 10/10 on IBT

I plan to move from intelburn test to OCCT 4.4.1 large data 1 hour sessions to go easy on temps when I inevitability raise that VID.
Edited by MagicSquare - 10/30/15 at 12:01am
post #18328 of 19603
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Originally Posted by MagicSquare View Post

I know stress testing for stability is a subjective area of expertise, but I am looking for some food for thought before I continue to push my OC. Should I continue to do a little more stability testing or just press on until i hit issues?

Overclock: 4.4Ghz
VID: 1.200V (1.202V)
Cache: 3.5Ghz
Cache V: 1.15V
V Input: 1.80V
Temps: 77,79,78,73C
RAM: Gskill ripjawsx 2133
RAM Speed: 1333Mhz
RAM Timings: 9,9,9,24, 1T
RAM V: 1.55V
Stress Test: IBT v2.54 very high 20/20 runs

Overclock: 4.5Ghz
VID: 1.200V (1.202V)
Cache: 3.5Ghz
Cache V: 1.15
V Input: 1.80V
Temps: 77,80,78,74
RAM: Gskill ripjawsx 2133
RAM Speed: 1333Mhz
RAM Timings: 9,9,9,24, 1T
RAM V: 1.55V
Stress Test: IBT v2.54 very high 10/10 runs EDIT: did a second run of 10/10 on IBT

I plan to move from intelburn test to OCCT 4.4.1 large data 1 hour sessions to go easy on temps when I inevitability raise that VID.
Ibt is not very good indication on Haswell/dc. It makes lots of heat but I can pass standard/high on very unstable oc. OCCT is a better choice for sure.

I recommend using at least two tests. So after you pass occt consider 10 or 20 loops of x264.

x264 will also show you what your max cpu temps will during an actual 100% load. Ideally you want 80c or below during x264.
Edited by Wirerat - 10/30/15 at 6:57am
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post #18329 of 19603
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Originally Posted by Wirerat View Post

Ibt is not very good indication on Haswell/dc. It makes lots of heat but I can pass standard/high on very unstable oc. OCCT is a better choice for sure.

I recommend using at least two tests. So after you pass occt consider 10 or 20 loops of x264.

x264 will also show you what your max cpu temps will during an actual 100% load. Ideally you want 80c or below during x264.

I got 124 blue screen about 5 minutes into OCCT. Most likely just some more voltage needed? i read the blue screen codes elsewhere on oc.net and wasn't very sure what QPI/VTT was referring too.

I'm not too worried about temps yet if IBT isn't putting me over 80C, cooling is h100i.
post #18330 of 19603
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Originally Posted by MagicSquare View Post

I got 124 blue screen about 5 minutes into OCCT. Most likely just some more voltage needed? i read the blue screen codes elsewhere on oc.net and wasn't very sure what QPI/VTT was referring too.

I'm not too worried about temps yet if IBT isn't putting me over 80C, cooling is h100i.

0x124 generally applies to vcore, but could potentially be referring to VRin in some cases - test to figure out which is needed. Give the vcore a bump and re-test, if you get another BSOD, then remove the bump in vcore and give the VRin a bump, then re-test. thumb.gif
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