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Does anyone have any problems getting OCCT stable? I can run IBT and be stable, I can also use OCCT on the linpack setting, I can use the linpack setting at 90% memory usage and be fine for long periods, but as soon as I do the normal OCCT on large fft it bsod in 5 mins or less with the Whea_Uncorrectable nonsense.
 
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Well, i suppose i'm stable enough for what i do.



It's set to 1GB, i also pass all other things besides Prime and OCCT becuase i didn't even try those yet.
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Originally Posted by wendigo4700 View Post

You said a bit earlier not to run FPU. And now you say I should?
"i don't see a reason why you should run FPU test. it can easily throttle any CPU when not delidded."

And then you say:
"cache is the one that you should run separately"

Only to say a bit below:
"Run CPU, FPU, Cache all checked"


I might be getting a little confussed now.redface.gif
But I'll run the cache alone, and CPU + FPU together then.
what i said is, don't run FPU test alone. you can run it if you are selecting the other tests as well. running FPU test alone will put so much load on the CPU (actually it will only heat up a lot, not increase the power consumption THAT much) and throttle the CPU. it would be dangerous if run for too long.

when they are all checked (FPU, Cache, CPU), AIDA64 will balance them out so that temps won't go crazy high. It is still more stressful that real world apps.

why i told you to run Cache test alone is because it will show instabilities in Uncore "quickly". but it won't catch them all.

when you are properly stress testing, select them all. maybe skip memory. (GPU and HDDs shouldn't be checked as well).
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hmmm.....thinking.gif

What is the final verdict then?

Or maybe there isnt "one right way only"?

EDIT: I did some more research, and came up with this method. Any complains?

Stress Cache alone 30min to 1 hour

Stress CPU / FPU / Cache all together for 7-8 hours

And the research I found, also said not to bother with the "Stress memory" unless you overclock your memory beyond factory speeds.

Is using AIDA64 extrem edition enough? Or do I also need to use other programs, such as IntelBurn test?
that should be fine. Prime95 and H.264 are the most stressful imo. IBT will only check how good your cooling is, just like AIDA64's FPU test. i've even managed to finish 10 passes of very high settings at 4.5/1285V whereas H.264 failed at 4.4/1.285V. go figure!
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So what's the point of using IBT if aida64 gives much lower temps? No real-world application will ever stress the system as much as IBT, right?
different stress tests stress the CPU differently. just like every application will use the CPU differently.

IMHO, it is better to run 3 different stress tests for 1hr each and pass than run just one for 3hrs and pass.
Edited by Anusha - 9/3/13 at 5:25pm
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CPU: 1.4V (BIOS) Asus LLC: Extreme
Cache: 1.25
Vrin: 2.0
DDR: 1.65
Almost Everything Else: +0.1 over Auto values.

Stability tests so far:
1 hour of AIDA CPU/FPU
1 hour LinX
4 hours of Prime95
Encoded a Bluray in Handbrake

Things still to try:
BF3
Fold@home
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CPU at 4800
Cache at 4200
DDR-2000

CPU: 1.4V (BIOS) Asus LLC: Extreme
Cache: 1.25
Vring: 2.0
DDR: 1.65
Almost Everything Else: +0.1 over Auto values.

Stability tests so far:
1 hour of AIDA CPU/FPU
1 hour LinX
4 hours of Prime95

Things still to try:
Encode a Bluray
BF3
Fold@home

Cooling solution, batch number please. 
I'm assuming 2.0v is for Vrin, not Vring.

 

Results charted! Congrats on the good overclock.

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Cooling solution, batch number please. 

I'm assuming 2.0v is for Vrin, not Vring.

Results charted! Congrats on the good overclock.

Updated my original post.
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Updated my original post.

Alrighty, the entry is updated as well! :cheers:

 

I am now updating my guide to bust the "1:1 ratio" myth and add a caution to Prime95 versions.


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Does anyone have any problems getting OCCT stable? I can run IBT and be stable, I can also use OCCT on the linpack setting, I can use the linpack setting at 90% memory usage and be fine for long periods, but as soon as I do the normal OCCT on large fft it bsod in 5 mins or less with the Whea_Uncorrectable nonsense.

I use both Prime95 and OCCT CPU tests, although I actually prefer the ladder because it can easily be set to shut down if temps get out of control. I use IBT maximum instead of OCCT Linpack for no particular reason, it is just a routine I like to use. I have had crashes while dialing in my OCs and sometimes OCCT will shut down (instead of BSOD) when it detects an error., and it was almost always not enough core voltage. I typically always run it with Large Data Set because it is best for error detection, and generates a little less heat. Here is a recent 9 hour run for my 4.7 GHz OC (4.2 uncore), although since then I have gone back to a 24/7 OC of 4.6 GHz (4.3 uncore) @ 1.225V (1.238V Vcore) for better thermals while gaming. Although both are rock solid (not a single crash once dialed in) 4.6 runs nearly 10C cooler while gaming.



But anyways, it seems to run fine for me, and is a credible and oft used stress test in my book.
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I'm testing my random hypothesis that adaptive voltage/C states may cause slight instabilities when already on the borderline of stability.

 

Emphasis on random.

 

Guide is already updated with the things I mentioned before.

Running chess for another night and I will continue to run it for another week or two I think, I've got a lot of chess work to do but I guess it's also a good stress test for being run so long, lol.

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I use both Prime95 and OCCT CPU tests, although I actually prefer the ladder because it can easily be set to shut down if temps get out of control. I use IBT maximum instead of OCCT Linpack for no particular reason, it is just a routine I like to use. I have had crashes while dialing in my OCs and sometimes OCCT will shut down (instead of BSOD) when it detects an error., and it was almost always not enough core voltage. I typically always run it with Large Data Set because it is best for error detection, and generates a little less heat. Here is a recent 9 hour run for my 4.7 GHz OC (4.2 uncore), although since then I have gone back to a 24/7 OC of 4.6 GHz (4.3 uncore) @ 1.225V (1.238V Vcore) for better thermals while gaming. Although both are rock solid (not a single crash once dialed in) 4.6 runs nearly 10C cooler while gaming.



But anyways, it seems to run fine for me, and is a credible and oft used stress test in my book.

Ok thanks man, looks like I just need to keep cranking the voltage up.
 
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