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Input voltage is VRIN? I want to do what I can to shoehorn in 4.6ghz. I've temporarily set 1.38v on air... that's right, on air. I'm not stressing with Linpack, lol. But yeah... I hope chess won't harm my CPU over long run as that would make adaptive go to 1.4v. I'll watch temps carefully and adjust settings soon. My vrin remains on auto for now.
Looking foward to hearing back from you once you run more tests!

VRIN, Input Voltage, VCCIN is all the IVR voltage. Different manufacturers call it different things.

On air, max VRIN is 2.0-2.2V. Now, raising VRIN cannot grant higher overclocks. It can only stabilize an OC that you are very close to being stable at. Say for example, you get a BSOD after a few hours of Prime95. You might be able to stabilize it by increasing VRIN by 0.1V. Cache ratio that doesn't have adequate voltage can make you think you need more vcore than you really do. That's why I leave mine on auto, because it doesn't increase performance anyway.

Raising VRIN can also allow you to lower vcore in some cases, but it isn't a guarantee.
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VRIN, Input Voltage, VCCIN is all the IVR voltage. Different manufacturers call it different things.

On air, max VRIN is 2.0-2.2V. Now, raising VRIN cannot grant higher overclocks. It can only stabilize an OC that you are very close to being stable at. Say for example, you get a BSOD after a few hours of Prime95. You might be able to stabilize it by increasing VRIN by 0.1V. Cache ratio that doesn't have adequate voltage can make you think you need more vcore than you really do. That's why I leave mine on auto, because it doesn't increase performance anyway.

Raising VRIN can also allow you to lower vcore in some cases, but it isn't a guarantee.

Yea, I have x34 ring bus, voltage on auto. I have not stressed with chess yet. Inb4HouseBurnsDown

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I posted this in Haswell Owners Thread but I thought I'd post this here too:

 

I forgot to take adaptive off for stressing BUT I got interesting data. At 1.38v set to adaptive, hit with a constant chess load, the voltage maxed at 1.416. That is a jump of 0.036v over my max set limit. Last time I stated 0.25v over max, now it's 0.036v. Maybe higher voltages = going over set max more?

 

After 15 minutes of chess load at this really high voltage [1.416 on air] I pulled through nicely with only 76C.

No crashes but this is to be expected. After all, it was sapping an extra 0.036v! The plus side is, I now know if I use chess while on adaptive after I finalize my overclock, I will never be heat throttled... provided I stay on 4.6. TBH, I think I might be able to shoehorn in 4.7. But that's like being a guy and wearing girl jeans and having them being two sizes too small. I don't know why that analogy came up. buttkick.gif

 

I have updated my Haswell overclocking guide to reflect this higher voltage.  I've yet to go back to fiddling with ring bus as I am not done with core clock yet.


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You think people will cheat to be higher up on my little list? o.o
I wouldn't be too worried about that possibility, I think any crazy scores without the relevant proof will be drowned out by the slew of good information coming in.
I am more interested in investigating my overclocking capabilities that posting crazy numbers, and if my info helps just one person, then mission accomplished smile.gif

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I just noticed the highest overclock I have of a 4670k is 4.6ghz. I assume that's because people who can afford to stress and survive the temperatures can afford 4770k. I wanna be the one with 47 now lolol.

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Been getting 124 BSOD on my 4.3Ghz with Vcore range from 1.180 to 1.230 so I would think this is not about Vcore but something else? What I have tried so far though is vrin at 1.900 , ring at 1.200 vccsa,vcciod and vccioa at +0.105
That's weird. Your Vrin looks fine, I don't know about the other settings. If anybody can enlighten us that'd be great. It's not uncore or ram problem, right? Had to get that out of the way just in case.

I've already tried uncore at x34 and ram at default ( no XMP profile ) what I havent tried is a higher ring voltage but having the uncore at x34, it should not need anything higher than stock voltage? I havent pushed the VCCIOD past +0.105
All other settings not mentioned are in auto like the vDIMM (if that matters)
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Been getting 124 BSOD on my 4.3Ghz with Vcore range from 1.180 to 1.230 so I would think this is not about Vcore but something else? What I have tried so far though is vrin at 1.900 , ring at 1.200 vccsa,vcciod and vccioa at +0.105

You might just need more Vcore. 1.230 may not be enough, even for 4.3, if you have a bad chip.

It could be possible but its confusing since some say 124 is not about Vcore.

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Been getting 124 BSOD on my 4.3Ghz with Vcore range from 1.180 to 1.230 so I would think this is not about Vcore but something else? What I have tried so far though is vrin at 1.900 , ring at 1.200 vccsa,vcciod and vccioa at +0.105
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That's weird. Your Vrin looks fine, I don't know about the other settings. If anybody can enlighten us that'd be great. It's not uncore or ram problem, right? Had to get that out of the way just in case.

It could just be a bad chip.

My previous chip needed 1.33v at 4.4Ghz to be completely stable (at 4.5 I needed 1.33v just to be able to boot into windows). Sold it off and bought my current one, which does 4.5Ghz 1.26v completely stable.

Haswell is really a lottery.

at 1.33v bios thats probably 1.350v real which is gonna insta throttle the CPU and I am not yet delidded.
Edited by EarlZ - 8/6/13 at 1:21am
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It could be possible but its confusing since some say 124 is not about Vcore.

I think it doesn't have to be about Vcore, but it can be. You've tried pretty much everything else, I'd give more Vcore a shot. That's the only way you'll know for sure. For 124 errors I'd try Vring and VCCIOD and cache speed first, before just pushing more Vcore, but you've already done that with no success.
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I think your settings are all fine. I just think your CPU is a dud.

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It could be possible but its confusing since some say 124 is not about Vcore.

I think it doesn't have to be about Vcore, but it can be. You've tried pretty much everything else, I'd give more Vcore a shot. That's the only way you'll know for sure. For 124 errors I'd try Vring and VCCIOD and cache speed first, before just pushing more Vcore, but you've already done that with no success.

Yeah probably almost everything, having the memory and uncore at stock speeds should not require me to even bump vcciod and vring, correct?
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Uncore at stock is fine at auto.

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