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Originally Posted by Forceman View Post

I think it is "Something-Something I/O Digital". But don't quote me on that.

I know what it is then; what did you put yours at?

Actually, how much of an impact does this voltages have at overclocking in general?

I was able to boot and browse at, even use a higher core.

But i'm only stable at 4.4 with 1.336 in vcore, could it be that if i raise my vcciod i can lower my other voltages by a lot?




"Stable"



Actually, is vccin the same as hwmonitor's VID?
Edited by Hyolyn - 9/4/13 at 11:46am
post #1912 of 19540
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One thing I have noticed is that small changes to VID sometimes won't amount to an equal change in Vcore.

You'd have to use a multimeter to say that, software voltage is both inaccurate and only moves in (relatively) big steps, like you can add +0.005v and not see a step change in software, even if vcore increased by that much
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ok, so here are my results
CPU Model: i5 4670K
Core Multiplier: 45x
CPU VID: stock 1.036V, OC 1.305V
Vcore: 1.328V
Uncore Multiplier: 40x
Uncore Voltage: 1.10V
Cooling Solution: Coolink Corator DS
Stability Test: AIDA64, Prime95, Crysis 3, BF 3, GTA IV all of them multiple hours for several days
Batch Number: L312B527
Ram Speed: 1866Mhz CL9 1.62V (1600Mhz 1.65V stock)



Here are sensors (look good except DIMM - should be 0.1V lower)
and quick "stability test"



24/7 everyday stable settings now 3rd week
I think its average chip, what do you think?
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post #1914 of 19540
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Originally Posted by Hyolyn View Post

I know what it is then; what did you put yours at?

Actually, how much of an impact does this voltages have at overclocking in general?

I was able to boot and browse at, even use a higher core.

But i'm only stable at 4.4 with 1.336 in vcore, could it be that if i raise my vcciod i can lower my other voltages by a lot?

It's been a while since I did the testing with it, but I was not stable at 4.4 @ 1.335V with VCCIOD at Auto. When I changed to +0.05V I was then able to be stable. I think it took 1.35V with IOD in Auto, but I can't remember for sure. I've tried playing with it to get 4.5 but I haven't gotten anything stable enough to tell what effect it has at that speed. But it was pretty conclusive that it helped stability at 4.4, at least for my chip.

Based on all the differing results we are seeing though, I'm starting to wonder how much validity some of these changes have as "across the board" solutions. With so many variables it could really be down to an individual chip, where one thing helps one chip and something completely different helps another. I think my chip has a poor overclocking ring bus, which may be why IOD seemed to help me, but that may not apply to someone else's chip. Everyone may need to find their own limiting factor and then find the counter specific to it.
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Whats the difference between HWMonitor and HWInfo? Is it better than CPU-Z? I've been using CPU-Z and RealTemp Tech Inferno edition, and it's worked quite well.
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ok, so here are my results
CPU Model: i5 4670K
Core Multiplier: 45x
CPU VID: stock 1.036V, OC 1.305V
Vcore: 1.328V
Uncore Multiplier: 40x
Uncore Voltage: 1.10V
Cooling Solution: Coolink Corator DS
Stability Test: AIDA64, Prime95, Crysis 3, BF 3, GTA IV all of them multiple hours for several days
Batch Number: L312B527
Ram Speed: 1866Mhz CL9 1.62V (1600Mhz 1.65V stock)



Here are sensors (look good except DIMM - should be 0.1V lower)
and quick "stability test"



24/7 everyday stable settings now 3rd week
I think its average chip, what do you think?

Your settings have been charted and you have qualified for picture verification for Aida64 for 30 minutes. 

 

Grats.

 

I think your chip is a little below average. But not by much, no sweat.

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Whats the difference between HWMonitor and HWInfo? Is it better than CPU-Z? I've been using CPU-Z and RealTemp Tech Inferno edition, and it's worked quite well.

HWinfo has much more info than HWmonitor, lol. Harder to get a quick read on what you need, and had some issues with some mobos although the latest beta was released very recently to address all that.

 

CPUZ is just horrible IMO. Took it forever to get a voltage that's remotely on target, lol. Ironic too since HWmonitor is also from same guys who made CPUZ but CPUZ's reading has always been behind Hwmonitor's.

 

HWinfo is what I use nowadays. It's got the temps, average temps, GPU monitoring, CPU speed, VID, Vcore, uncore, etc all in there.

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post #1918 of 19540
Okay, so this is rather hillarious.

If i played around with the settings maxforce mentioned i came up with this.



Round 70% better then before.
Wow.

PS. Actual bios voltages are 1.285 vcore / 1.830 VCCIN
This proves how extreme the balancing is between the settings

Diffrence by +0.10 can mean boot or no boot.

PS. For unstable people i narrowed some bios codes.

A8009XXX = Memory unstable usually BLCK related.
A800A = Low voltage vcore

Edit - No stress yet but i'm stable enough to browse youtube and post on ocn still waiting for a bsod.
Edited by Hyolyn - 9/4/13 at 1:10pm
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Around 70% better than before for what?

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Originally Posted by Darkwizzie View Post

Around 70% better than before for what?

Might be exaggerated the percentage but i lowered my all round voltages in almost half or so.
That's amazing for me, personally at least.

Refrence before and after;

Somewhat stable 4400MHZ Core 3600 Uncore
Temps 86-94 on stress.
Voltages vcore 1.337
Uncore 1.100
VCCIN 1.920

Currently stable 4400 / 3900
Temps 72-81

1.285
1.150
1.830

I'm not delidded
Edited by Hyolyn - 9/4/13 at 1:16pm
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