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Update. I was able to increase the core speed and decrease the vCore. LinX Stable.



Core: 4800
Cache: 4500
Vcore: 1.375
Cache: 1.275

Everything else the same.

What cooling system is that on? Is it delided?
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I think this depends on your board. I don't see anything wrong with latest CPU-Z personally, it basically matches what I have in BIOS, same for Realtemp TI. HWInfo64 and HWMonitor are questionable at best because I see my volts go down to 0 often and then when they do jump back up, they're always 0.02v more than in BIOS or those other 2 programs (latest version of all).

I also don't believe CPU-Z 1.64v, I don't see why Manual mode would drop volts like Adaptive and that is supposedly the only program that shows it correctly.

CPUz will display your VID (give or take a thousandth of a volt) and not the actual core voltage. HWinfo is totally wrong on my board and displays 0.000V on idle, but HWMonitor seems to display the correct core voltage. It usually is around 0.020-0.030V above your VID. In theory the FIVR (integrated voltage regulator) draws extra to offset droop, whereas before it was up to the overclocker to adjust LLC. LLC now directly effects CPU Input voltage because that is about all the motherboard has control over. So essentially we are all at the mercy of the integrated regulator and it decides what voltage to actually use, although it is usually around the same offset (0.020V).

But we want more people to list both so we can see if it more or less constant or if it varies depending on the amount of voltage. As Wizzie stated it can vary, especially with more extreme overclocks getting up to 0.040V spike under load.
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What cooling system is that on? Is it delided?

Corsair H100 on a naked die.
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Had some giggles by turning CPU to 4.7ghz, 4.3ghz uncore, 7970 ghz edition OC'ed to 1265mhz for GPU core speed. I got 8.03 for Cinebench on 4670k.

 

And this...

Tehehehehehehehehehe

Only 3.1% higher PCMark score though compared to my day-to-day settings.


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It's been a while since I did the testing with it, but I was not stable at 4.4 @ 1.335V with VCCIOD at Auto. When I changed to +0.05V I was then able to be stable. I think it took 1.35V with IOD in Auto, but I can't remember for sure. I've tried playing with it to get 4.5 but I haven't gotten anything stable enough to tell what effect it has at that speed. But it was pretty conclusive that it helped stability at 4.4, at least for my chip.

Based on all the differing results we are seeing though, I'm starting to wonder how much validity some of these changes have as "across the board" solutions. With so many variables it could really be down to an individual chip, where one thing helps one chip and something completely different helps another. I think my chip has a poor overclocking ring bus, which may be why IOD seemed to help me, but that may not apply to someone else's chip. Everyone may need to find their own limiting factor and then find the counter specific to it.
AUTO for VCCIO-D on my M6H sets +0.1 offset. Maybe because I have 4 sticks of RAM. According to what the manual says, it should only affect memory overclocks. But I'm sure even Asus don't know everything about overclocking Haswell. It's one weird CPU.
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Corsair H100 on a naked die.

Your stats have been updated and you have been approved for picture verification: Linpack, 45minutes.

Grats, nice overclock!

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CPUz will display your VID (give or take a thousandth of a volt) and not the actual core voltage. HWinfo is totally wrong on my board and displays 0.000V on idle, but HWMonitor seems to display the correct core voltage. It usually is around 0.020-0.030V above your VID. In theory the FIVR (integrated voltage regulator) draws extra to offset droop, whereas before it was up to the overclocker to adjust LLC. LLC now directly effects CPU Input voltage because that is about all the motherboard has control over. So essentially we are all at the mercy of the integrated regulator and it decides what voltage to actually use, although it is usually around the same offset (0.020V).

But we want more people to list both so we can see if it more or less constant or if it varies depending on the amount of voltage. As Wizzie stated it can vary, especially with more extreme overclocks getting up to 0.040V spike under load.

Upcoming changes in the next release: (HWInfo)

  • Added option to disable flushing of file buffers during start.
  • Added several new Intel CPU models and SSPEC codes.
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  • Fixed crash on some Windows 8.1 systems.
  • Added support of ITE IT8790E.
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  • Rewritten drive detection method for more flexibility.
  • Drive sensors order change on many systems, so a layout order reset and reconfiguration of plugins might be required.
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Is everyone here purchasing aida or is there some cut down free version?

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Update. I was able to increase the core speed and decrease the vCore. LinX Stable.



Core: 4800
Cache: 4500
Vcore: 1.375
Cache: 1.275

Everything else the same.

Did you have to disable Hyperthreading for it to be stable at that speed?
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How am I supposed to set my adaptive voltage correctly? Doesn't the base change with the multiplier and plus stress testing adds extra voltage on top of that. So how the heck am I supposed to accurately set it?
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