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How am I supposed to set my adaptive voltage correctly? Doesn't the base change with the multiplier and plus stress testing adds extra voltage on top of that. So how the heck am I supposed to accurately set it?

If you're stable in manual you should be stable under adaptive.

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Skyn3t, that looks like a fair bit of vcore for 45x. Im new to this but just in case it helps you, increasing vccin a fair bit helped me to stabilise at 1.32.
unless you are on adaptive, which would make sense with the higher vcore as my mobo does that too.

My VCCIN is 1.9. do you know how high we can go with VCCIN?

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Hi there. Have you tried to download CPU-z version 1.64 and see if shows the voltage dropping on idle?

alll 1.6x reads the voltage correctly. at least in my mobo. I probe my mobo last night all voltages read's correctly software to probe are the same I just found two variance in voltage 0.01.

I already know that I posted it.tongue.gif

4770k Probe and software read's the same As a promise I did probe my mobo today and here are the result Idle and under load included screen shot.
Probe points on Asus MVI Formula
Software used
Asus AI suite 3, HWiNFO, HwMonitor & CPU-Z.

IDLE
  1. V-in - 1.75
  2. V-core - 1.37
  3. IO-D - 1.01
  4. IO-A - 1.01
  5. SA - 0.88
  6. RING - 1.26
  7. DRAM - 1.51
  8. PCH - 1.04
  9. PCH-IO 1.50
___________________

Underload
  1. V-in - 1.75
  2. V-core - 1.38
  3. IO-D - 1.02
  4. IO-A - 1.02
  5. SA - 0.88
  6. RING - 1.27
  7. DRAM - 1.51
  8. PCH - 1.04
  9. PCH-IO - 1.50

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I dont know what are you talking about... CPUZ 1.66.1 reads that voltage I have set in BIOS, older versions read 0.897 all the time. Maybe Yours board sensors are innacurate, but on MSI it reads the value as it should.

same here.
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CPUZ shows the VID, tried different versions on 2 asus boards and a gigabyte board.

EDIT: ok i lied, 1.64 seems to show the right vcore in cpu-z. Weird because I tested this version not long ago

It reads right for me. 1.6x
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Originally Posted by Forceman View Post

Asus boards don't seem to report the voltage correctly, at least not on most monitoring software.
Try increasing VCCIOD if you haven't already. That helped me.

It does report right. as you can see above in my first post. it doescontinue here.


Can you guys check with me if anything here is wrong that makes my voltage running at max all the time? I may missing something but I have been busy and stress in the last few days. It may be right in front of me but i can't nail it somehow. I already checked my voltage with probe and it show max voltage always and i don't like it at all. my core clock does downclock but voltage stays up. @ 1.36v

Bellow are all my settings.

























Edited by skyn3t - 9/4/13 at 7:15pm
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My asus maximus vi hero board had CPU core voltage offset and Additional turbo mode cpu core voltage under the adaptive option. Do I mess with both? Also my cpu is requiring 1.245 to be stable at 4.3ghz. Is this way below average? Currently I'm trying to get 4.5 with stock cache ratio and I'm already up to 1.3v and it still isn't remotely stable.

Also I'm noticing that in cpu-z with a 44 multiplier, that it constantly drops down to 42 every few seconds in prime. Is that a problem?
Edited by Spudinske - 9/4/13 at 7:54pm
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skynet as my guide said, 2.0 or under is safe. 2.2 reported a dead CPU but a few extreme overclocks venture past that voltage.

 

CPUZ for me doesn't show correct voltage under load.

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skyn3t as my guide said, 2.0 or under is safe. 2.2 reported a dead CPU but a few extreme overclocks venture past that voltage.

CPUZ for me doesn't show correct voltage under load.

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here everything read good in my end, but my voltage never downvoltage dunno why I love to find out what is causing it to max voltage.
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here everything read good in my end, but my voltage never downvoltage dunno why I love to find out what is causing it to max voltage.

Max voltage for VCCIN or Vcore?
 

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Max voltage for VCCIN or Vcore?
vcore it always show 1.376
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anyone find if LLC helped anyone's stability/overclock? I don't see that mentioned much.
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anyone find if LLC helped anyone's stability/overclock? I don't see that mentioned much.

 

Just seems annoying and in the way and useless to me.

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vcore it always show 1.376

Is windows power settings on balanced? Are Cstates enabled up to C7? Is Vcore voltage mode set to adaptive?


All t hose variations between motherboards really screw people over when we're trying to iron out any possible issues because for example, adaptive isn't even in Gigabyte's vocabulary. :rolleyes:

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How am I supposed to set my adaptive voltage correctly? Doesn't the base change with the multiplier and plus stress testing adds extra voltage on top of that. So how the heck am I supposed to accurately set it?

First off, it will be different on all boards (gigabyte doesn't have an adaptive setting), but you should be able to select between adaptive, manual (override), and offset modes for your core voltage. This is how it is on my Asus Gryphon, but it will vary from board to board.

Setting the adaptive voltage will set the max turbo voltage allowed, so it won't effect voltages for other C states (lower multis), the board and CPU will take care of that. You don't ever want to run synthetic stress tests while using adaptive voltage. You can run (and are advised to run) non AVX stress tests after switching to adaptive. A few examples are Cinebench, video compression software, benchmark software (3D Mark, Heaven, Valley, etc), or even long gaming runs. You want to first find your max turbo voltage in manual mode through synthetic stress testing (don't use only one). Then once you've found your stable voltage switch to adaptive and enter the same "max voltage". The one thing I can't tell you is exactly how to switch to adaptive in your BIOS because they are all a little different. On my board you select the voltage mode and then new options appear beneath it for you to enter the values. Asus also allows the use of an offset with adaptive so if you are getting crashes at lower multis (or at idle) you can raise the offset to get more voltage in lower C states too.
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