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Do i also need a higher vcore when i raise the uncore or only uncore voltage??
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Just ordered my water system for this new rig, looking forward to see what can do with the cpu with decent cooling. Just got to wait until the Hawaii release now for my gpu to compliment it but the wait is awful lol, I was so close to clicking buy on a new gpu today. When the itch is there.....!!!
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I take it all back. AIDA64 is hopeless. Ran AIDA64 for 6hrs just to see H.264 fail within a couple of hrs! ARGH! In that case, XTU and AIDA64 are both out. If you are stable in OCCT, it seems that you would be stable in all real world tasks. If you are Prime95 28.1 stable, even for an hour, i guess your stability is rock solid.
1 hour of 28.1 is way too random. I passed 3 hours and ended up with 1 rounding error. Few days later run blend again without any tweaks and actually bsod within 1st hour. My suggestion is not to bother with it at all, its stupendously hard to pass and one might end up with a clock of 4.3 on 4.5 gaming/x264 stable system.
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1 hour of 28.1 is way too random. I passed 3 hours and ended up with 1 rounding error. Few days later run blend again without any tweaks and actually bsod within 1st hour. My suggestion is not to bother with it at all, its stupendously hard to pass and one might end up with a clock of 4.3 on 4.5 gaming/x264 stable system.

Once you find something you think is stable, you should run the same tests on it on a couple different days. But the bottom line is that there is no single stress test to rule them all.

And just to be clear- the Intel Extreme Tuner Utility has a stress test and a benchmark. The stress test is non-AVX, but the benchmark is AVX. I'm guessing the benchmark is Linpack, the same thing you find behind LinX/IBT/OCCT.

But, crunching linear algebra or trying to calculate prime numbers only goes so far. I've run those things for hours without issue, and then as soon as I open up Paint to paste a screenshot it'll BSOD. It also likes to bluescreen going to and from the screensaver. These tests will help you get very close, but the last stress test is always the application you really use.
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Hello everybody,
I have a 4670K with Gigabyte UD4H.
I just want to tell my experiences with OC.
Ioverclocked my I5 to 4,5 GHz with 1,215 Vcore, 1,2 Ring, 1,75 Vrin, LLC Standard.
This ist stable for Cinebench, encoding movie (Handbrake) and Battlefield 3. Prime 26.6 1344K run also passed.

But I had Problems with 4,6 Ghz. Then I tried the following settings:
Uncore is x39, Vcore 1,26, Vrin 1,85, Ring 1,13 for 1866 MHZ Ram: System Agent 0.15, Vccioa 0,20, Vcciod 0,15, LLC Standard
Tried Battlefield 3, Cinebench stable.
Before I could do cinebench and encoding but Battlefield used to crash.
I think the right Vccin/Vrin and Loadline is very important and brought the stability plus raising System Agent , Vccioa/d for high Ram clocks.
Will do some Prime 26.6 testing (not delidded yet) but I think it will be ok.



Good luck erverybody with OC thumb.gif
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I watched LavoPriceTech's video on "Haswell Sucks" and most of it was misinformation or only half-truths. Seriously dislike that guy as a person in the way he treats his viewers, his crappy content, but moreover, his entire channel is just sooooo unprofessional, never corrects himself, arrogant, etc.

 

Anyways.

 

 

 

I've already stated my preference, no 28.1, only 27.9.

Run that overnight. Bingo.

 

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Do i also need a higher vcore when i raise the uncore or only uncore voltage??

Ok so to even ask that question effectively you should already be sure that your crashes only occur with overclocked ring bus. If that's the case then sniffing out the issue shouldn't be too hard.

 

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Originally Posted by Womper View Post


Once you find something you think is stable, you should run the same tests on it on a couple different days. But the bottom line is that there is no single stress test to rule them all.

And just to be clear- the Intel Extreme Tuner Utility has a stress test and a benchmark. The stress test is non-AVX, but the benchmark is AVX. I'm guessing the benchmark is Linpack, the same thing you find behind LinX/IBT/OCCT.

But, crunching linear algebra or trying to calculate prime numbers only goes so far. I've run those things for hours without issue, and then as soon as I open up Paint to paste a screenshot it'll BSOD. It also likes to bluescreen going to and from the screensaver. These tests will help you get very close, but the last stress test is always the application you really use.

 

That's never happened to me, lol.

 
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Hello everybody,
I have a 4670K with Gigabyte UD4H.
I just want to tell my experiences with OC.
Ioverclocked my I5 to 4,5 GHz with 1,215 Vcore, 1,2 Ring, 1,75 Vrin, LLC Standard.
This ist stable for Cinebench, encoding movie (Handbrake) and Battlefield 3. Prime 26.6 1344K run also passed.

But I had Problems with 4,6 Ghz. Then I tried the following settings:
Uncore is x39, Vcore 1,26, Vrin 1,85, Ring 1,13 for 1866 MHZ Ram: System Agent 0.15, Vccioa 0,20, Vcciod 0,15, LLC Standard
Tried Battlefield 3, Cinebench stable.
Before I could do cinebench and encoding but Battlefield used to crash.
I think the right Vccin/Vrin and Loadline is very important and brought the stability plus raising System Agent , Vccioa/d for high Ram clocks.
Will do some Prime 26.6 testing (not delidded yet) but I think it will be ok.



Good luck erverybody with OC thumb.gif
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Drop your VRIN for 4.6, and try sa/dio/aio on auto, try them auto and changed values. A profile that looks like: 34x or 40x uncore (try 34x first) 46x core, 1.25vcore (or a bit more) and 1.78vrin with highest or second highest llc should work, leaving sa, dio, aio on auto and giving it 1.2 ring. Clock your RAM after cpu is stable (:
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Who is Lavo Price.....

Haswell is fun smile.gif

@cyro999
4,6 my I5 4670k will crash imediatly if I go Vrin under 1,81v tested this many times.
With LLc had better experience with Standard setting instead of extreme setting. Tested this also many times.
Edited by Alxx - 9/9/13 at 1:08pm
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I hope my increase of CPU voltage from 1.08 to 1.085, can prevent my pc from freezing up, for the next prime95 test.
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I was going to get Haswell to upgrade from my 8350but I went to the I73770k instead

Im glad I didn't go Haswell it seems to take a performance hit vs the 3770k ram scores and oc scores thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
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