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because quite often its true with creative and their soundcard drivers , it happens alot with their drivers

Oh really? Can you find anything about Creative ZxR and its latest driver causing BSOD for many people?
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Oh really? Can you find anything about Creative ZxR and its latest driver causing BSOD for many people?

Chill out man. I've been going through this thread as I just started overclocking my 4670k, and your posts are seriously detracting from the conversation. You need to increase your VCore to get your cpu stable at 4.0 and higher. That is crystal clear to me after 20 minutes of researching Haswell overclocks. People are trying to help you, coming up with alternate ideas of what could be problems and you are getting butt-hurt. If you increase your VCore and are able to get a stable 4.0ghz, then you will know that your Creative wasnt the problem. Case closed.

Anyway...

My 4670k is at 4.5Ghz with 1.31V VCore. It ran Prime95 mix for about 2 hours before crashing. Max temperature was 73C with a Corsair H110. I haven't touched any other settings besides setting memory to 1600 and uncore to stock. I'm running the Intel Tuner's stress test now to see what the differences are.

I'll keep going until I get to 1.35V Vcore, then I'll probably start fiddling with some of the other voltages. CLP and ICD7(currently using the TIM that came on the H110) should be getting here today or tomorrow. I plan on delidding and changing the TIM whenever I get a chance, but temps have not been bad for me so far.

Edit: If temperatures are safe, is there potential for problems while using 1.4V Vcore for gaming and general use over the long term?
Edited by MuppetMower - 9/10/13 at 8:52am
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Chill out man. I've been going through this thread as I just started overclocking my 4670k, and your posts are seriously detracting from the conversation. You need to increase your VCore to get your cpu stable at 4.0 and higher. That is crystal clear to me after 20 minutes of researching Haswell overclocks. People are trying to help you, coming up with alternate ideas of what could be problems and you are getting butt-hurt. If you increase your VCore and are able to get a stable 4.0ghz, then you will know that your Creative wasnt the problem. Case closed.

Anyway...

My 4670k is at 4.5Ghz with 1.31V VCore. It ran Prime95 mix for about 2 hours before crashing. Max temperature was 73C with a Corsair H110. I haven't touched any other settings besides setting memory to 1600 and uncore to stock. I'm running the Intel Tuner's stress test now to see what the differences are.

I'll keep going until I get to 1.35V Vcore, then I'll probably start fiddling with some of the other voltages. CLP and ICD7(currently using the TIM that came on the H110) should be getting here today or tomorrow. I plan on delidding and changing the TIM whenever I get a chance, but temps have not been bad for me so far.

I am all chilled out. And you havent read anything, since you make that comment.

-I tryed the answer Clexzor gave me, about increasing VRIN.

-And then suddenly, someone jumps in saying its not voltage problem, but driver issues

-Then someone tells me to increase VTT

-Then another person comes in saying that is not needed at all, to mess with VTT at only 4Ghz


Where is the help people are trying to give, then they all work against each other. And just making one even more confussing?

I also did alot of research, before going to 4Ghz. And the information I found there, nobody had to give that much vcore as I did.
So I thought the problem were somewhere else.

So keep your personal feeling towards me, out of this topic here. rolleyes.gif
Edited by wendigo4700 - 9/10/13 at 8:59am
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Seriously though i know alot of people with Creative Sound cards who have gotten bsod because of their drivers, if you go to www.sevenforums.com and upload your dumb files to them, post under the BSOD section, let the seven experts analyze your dumb files, they can clearly tell you whats wrong there.

I've had every kind of error and bsod's you can have, i am 32 years old, i have been building PC's for 10+ years.

bugcheck code 124 is mostly because of not enough power , 135 is a driver error , 19 , c5 , 3b , c9 is also related to driver issues.

if your system crashes during stress testing with any of those, it is most commonly driver issues causing your BSOD , i was stress testing my system for days upon days , keep getting BSOD , i couldn't pass 1 test in IntelBurnTest without a BSOD, removed my first USB driver which belonged to my Tesoro Durandal Ultimate gaming keyboard, then i could pass 3 test , got another BSOD, then i removed the driver for my Corsair H80i which basicly means i cant control my fans anymore, all my BSOD's stopped and i've successfully completed the 10 standard tests with using 90% of my memory in the test.

All im saying, as a test, TRY and remove your soundcard driver, make sure your motherboard drivers are the latest

Then take another go at prime95, intelburntest , occt etc.

BSODS.jpg 648k .jpg file

this is me with BSOD's and it took me a while to figure out it was something so simple as ******* drivers doing this.
Edited by Kazed - 9/10/13 at 9:17am
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Not going to remove my ZxR soundcard driver. I havent seen any reports about BSODs from them. have you? no you havent.

So lets just leave it there, okay?

Right now, im doing some experimental testing with 3.8Ghz and vcore at auto. No crahses so far. But the auto does give 1.17. So all points to my CPU might just needs alot more than the 1.13 I manually adjusted it to, to run at 4GHz
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Not going to remove my ZxR soundcard driver. I havent seen any reports about BSODs from them. have you? no you havent.

So lets just leave it there, okay?

Right now, im doing some experimental testing with 3.8Ghz and vcore at auto. No crahses so far. But the auto does give 1.17. So all points to my CPU might just needs alot more than the 1.13 I manually adjusted it to, to run at 4GHz
Are you reading all post or just that ones you want to ? Why just you do not set 1.25 and check how much it can handle? You have good air cooler so why are you going that low with OC? It does not make any sense.
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Are you reading all post or just that ones you want to ? Why just you do not set 1.25 and check how much it can handle? You have good air cooler so why are you going that low with OC? It does not make any sense.

I do. But as I said earlier, I saw what other people had achieved at 4GHz. And that also included not every chip are the same. I just hadnt seen anyone at 4Ghz with that much voltages I've been typing down.
So I thought the problem were somewhere else. Since I couldnt find anyone else with that much high vcore, just to reach 4GHz.
Edited by wendigo4700 - 9/10/13 at 11:18am
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I know this little overclock, is very little. And its far from being even a mid-end overclock. But I dont care biggrin.gif
4Ghz on my i5-4670K. I have not tryed to push it any further. I just set it to 4Ghz in BIOS adjusted CPU voltage, and began to test for stability.

If U mean this, yes I wrote it and I dont understand why you do not want to push it to its limits. You bought the K version for doing this. OCing it to 3.8 ghz its not worth money you spend on cooling and K version. You should buy locked version of processor instead.
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wendigo first off member to try and have fun when overclocking/tweaking I look at it like working on my car's for instance my gto stock is beast but overclocked its a monster lol...meaning anything over stock is great and should be valued as such...alot of folks do not overclock but have nice hardware and run everything just fine. Alot of folks get bent out over overclocking and feel they have been robbed etc if they do not get to a certain overclock.

Anwyas please read all the post carefully you will see some people have helped/contributed to helping other achieve certain clock spees...member when overclocking esp haswell there is more han just the vore to look out for such as vrin...its is always fine to start a little high and work down on these voltages this will eliminate small issues along the way...thumb.gif
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The reason behind my insane air-cooling is also I want a silent system, yet somehow still fast. The two fans on my CPU cooler, runs at 500RPM each. Its limited how much CFM they can push through at that stage.

I guess my mistake were, I started with too little vcore. And then all the frozen up systems and BSOD's just made me completely frustated.

The experimental testing with 3.8Ghz, have giving me an sign where I might should start at with vcore, to resume my +4GHz goal. Or maybe just 4Ghz. Who knows.
Edited by wendigo4700 - 9/10/13 at 11:25am
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