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Well you can lead a horse to water.
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The reason behind my insane air-cooling is also I want a silent system, yet somehow still fast. The two fans on my CPU cooler, runs at 500RPM each. Its limited how much CFM they can push through at that stage.

I guess my mistake were, I started with too little vcore. And then all the frozen up systems and BSOD's just made me completely frustated.

The experimental testing with 3.8Ghz, have giving me an sign where I might should start at with vcore, to resume my +4GHz goal. Or maybe just 4Ghz. Who knows.

So what temps are you getting ehen stressing on your cpu fan running that low?
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My PC just froze again during prime95 after 5 hours of testing frown.gif
I'll try CPU vcore 1.11 now.


CPU VRIN external override, is set to 1.8 (auto)

So because my pc froze instead og doing an BOSD, I then open bluescreenview. And this here, were thee last BSOD it created while I were sleeping:
http://imageshack.us/f/845/zcwe.jpg/

But when looking at my screenshot. nvlddmkm.sys caused the crash? Thats nvidia.

Gigabyte board? Try changing the PCIe to Gen 2 in the BIOS (it's in a weird place, on the peripherals page, I think). Some of the BIOS versions seemed to be causing crashes with Nvidia cards in PCIe 3.0 mode. Switching to 2.0 fixed the issues I was having at the time.
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does anyone have an idea on how to stress the memory overclocks? i think i'm done with clocking the CPU and cache, now want to squeeze in every performance i can from RAM. my sticks don't go above 1600 at any CL value or at any voltage value. nor do they like to run at CL8 at 1600 at any voltage. i have changed from 9/9/9/24/2T to 9/8/8/20/1T. no idea how helpful they are. just wanna test if those settings are stable. any help is appreciated.

You can try HCI Memtest. It runs in Windows, but you'll need to run multiple instances of it to test all your memory (the free version is limited to 2GB, if I recall correctly). Seemed to work pretty well for me.

http://hcidesign.com/memtest/
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Sitting here with an ugly taste in my mouth

I have my cooler master cosmos II , a Corsair H80i with Noctua's NF-F12 pwm fans on it, for good pressure through the radiator, got 2 140mm Noctua in the top of the tower, got 2 side fans 1 front and 1 inside the tower in the middle where it can be mounted.

4770k stock 3.5ghz, lovered vcore to 1.0 and stress tested it , with vrin override at 1.5 instead of 1.8 standard, carefully read this guide, im thinking i have a seriously **** chip on my CPU.

Idle in windows with just chrome open and my fans on decent speed , i am at 39-40 degree's on the CPU , i'm thinking about taking off the pump and re-applying the thermal paste on the cpu with some Artic MX-4 or Arctic 5 , got both at home, even tho the cooling paste that comes standard on the corsair kits should be Shin Etsu which should be really good paste.

This temp is just my PC sitting idle in windows, its been about 1 hour and 50 minutes since i started it up, havent been doing anything on it yet.

Any thoughts anyone ?

 

 

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Yea thats another concern, if in fullscreen games the load temps can go as far up as in the late 60's

I'm well aware that haswell runs hot, but this just seems stupid smile.gif

1.2-1.25v version 27.9v prime I got like 80C on D14.

 

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I'm about to soon give up overclocking my i5-4670K. I've been introduced with so many BSOD's and frozen system. I'm overclocking the CPU to 4GHz. By multiplier. So I'm keeping uncore speed and bus speed at default. Its only CPU overclock.

So far I'm at 1.13 vcore.

new BSOD. Anybody knows what is causing it?

0x0000009C

I've had that, it's a real phantom error IMO. Tried IO voltages, etc. +0.135v, nothing. Ram to stock, ram above average voltage, uncore to stock, still nothing. Mostly had 9c but this morning woke up to 124. Loooool.

 

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Great thread, thanks SO much for taking the time to do this, I am very much an amateur overclocker and a guide like this tells everything I need to ask questions about. I have a 4770k which I am just experimenting with ATM, I currently have it set to 4.6ghz (100x46) @1.31875v (in Prime95 it ups it to 1.344v which doesn't bother me... should it?), at this level it was hitting temps of 81-84, I did this before reading your guide and panicked at the temps and stopped it. I'm going to give it another go now but from the look of things so far I may have a good CPU! Thanks again for the great guide. thumb.gif

No problems.
Under load Haswell does seem to up the voltage. Just make sure voltage isn't dangerous and you're not going above 95C.

 

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Those guys who seem to encounter phantom x124 (9XXXX) BSOD please note that increasing your vcore helps this, and also LLC isn't important on the Haswell so you will be fine off with a lower level.
Been noting down 2 sheet's of A4 papers for all the behviours i noted in haswell and blindly increasing voltages won't help, drop that LLC level and if you are experiencing troubles with bsod after changing RAM frequency change your I/O Analog and Digital to Auto and leave Agent to +0.005 / 0.007 depending on your frequency.

You can also increase the extra power to your ram to 110% instead of 100% this has seemed to help my stability.
Haven't crashed yet, i had one bsod during BF3 but after i increased my vcore by 1 it never happened again.
These are my current voltages, and no it's not a golden chip at all.

VCORE 1.351 V
VCCIN 1.860 V
LLC LEV 7
UNC 39 @ 1.150 V
HT 44
RAM 1600 @ 1.65 V / 110%

Hope this helps someone.
I can manage to boot to desktop with 4.8 and the exact same voltages but i'm guessing it will need a lot more to get stable.

Too sad, my mobo can't disable LLC. Is that like a forced feature?

 

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Oh really? Can you find anything about Creative ZxR and its latest driver causing BSOD for many people?
Well I have heard Creative drivers are bull. Bsod I dunno. Crap, hell yes.
 
 
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well i stress tested my new a little more 4ghz @ 1.050vcore, think ill settle for that, with my 2 top 140mm fans at medium settings, still pretty quiet, dont hear them really im at 38 degree's idle

ill exchange my TIM tomorrow, ill replace the stock that came on the Corsair H80i for some Artic MX-4 , i got 2x Noctua F-F12 in push pull on the radiator.
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I've had creative drivers for so many years, and I've never had 1 single problem with them

Creative x-fi ExtremeGamer

Auzentech Forte 7.1

Creative ZxR (which I have now)

I'll try 4GHz tomorrow, starting with 1.17 cpu volt. Since auto generates that right now at 3.8GHz.
And earlier today, my 4GHz failed at 1.13.

Also, I didnt knew that thing about Gigabyte boards and Gen.3 issue. WIll look into that also.
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I'm running with a gigabyte g.1 sniper 5

Did you make sure you have the newest bios also ? , it can resolve quite alot of things with compatibility , i mean sure haswell is new , but my gigabyte board arrived with the F4 bios from somewhere back in May , there is already an F7 , i could go from 1.060vcore to 1.050vcore @ 4.0ghz stable
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Too sad, my mobo can't disable LLC. Is that like a forced feature?

Here's a good read on what it does, http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/24019-load-line-calibration-why-overclockers-should-care/
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Here's a good read on what it does, http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/24019-load-line-calibration-why-overclockers-should-care/

 

I know what it is, but Haswell don't really need it, I dunno why my motherboard forces it.

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