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I've had creative drivers for so many years, and I've never had 1 single problem with them

Creative x-fi ExtremeGamer

Auzentech Forte 7.1

Creative ZxR (which I have now)

I'll try 4GHz tomorrow, starting with 1.17 cpu volt. Since auto generates that right now at 3.8GHz.
And earlier today, my 4GHz failed at 1.13.

Also, I didnt knew that thing about Gigabyte boards and Gen.3 issue. WIll look into that also.

You can try disabling any potentially problematic devices from Device Manager while you run stress tests.
But yeah, add more core voltage. I'm not surprised to hear that 4GHz fails at less than stock voltage.

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Strangely it was the opposite, i havent got XMP on. Now i turned it on, and it runs stable...
Any suggestions i could try to maybe lower the vcore needed for the 4.5ghz?

In your case, the memory's XMP timing settings were best for it. As long as one works, you're good. In my case, I had that phantom BSOD whether or not I used XMP or not, since XMP didn't seem to have knowledge of secondary or tertiary timings.

I do not know of any ways to get vcore lower substantially aside from dropping memory speed to 1600 (1333 is too high a performance hit, avoid it). I personally did not see any improvement between a 39x cache speed and 45x cache speed. SVID control disabled + manually set to 1.8v might have had a small effect; that's kind of a motherboard specific thing, and manual control is best if you're not confident in your motherboard. I'm going to set those two things back to Auto, as I don't believe they help me.
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Quick question: Is the stress test built into the MSI/Intel Extreme Tuning Utility the same as the IBT?
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Quick question: Is the stress test built into the MSI/Intel Extreme Tuning Utility the same as the IBT?
From what I understand, it is basically Prime95.
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The stress test isn't.. the bench is (some version / implementation of it). The bench also runs a lot cooler the "slower" your RAM is which I thought odd (the stress test doesn't).
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increasing the cache ratio

i have a feeling that i might be able to hit 43x on uncore with this new testing procedure. just to see if i can do 43x, i increase it to 43x but also increased the cache voltage to almost same as Vcore. 1.23V. it gave a 0x124, not a lockup, after about 10min, as if to say that the input voltage was too low. i mean, the 1.90V input voltage was set to match 1.25V Vcore/1.175V Uncore. i might need to increase it to 1.95V. but for the time being, i'm testing 1.255V Vcore/1.175V Uncore with multi synced at 43x. if i get a lockup, i might have to increase cache voltage AND input voltage at the same time. it's a good thing the weather has gotten a little mild these days. no need to use the A/C smile.gif

still a few stuff remaining to tweak it seems. i will play with them in the coming days. looks like i'll have to refresh Windows 8 again by the weekend. tongue.gif

I am currently running 43x uncore on my 4.6 OC. After stabilizing it at 38x I slowly raised it along with cache voltage, input voltage, and a slight boost to the core voltage. To go from 38x to 43x I raised the core from 1.220V to 1.228V and it helps. So in other words you will likely need a slight bump to the core voltage to get it totally stable. More than anything I believe this is due to the drop in bottlenecking while stress testing. The higher the uncore multi the more stress it receives while being tested. This is partially why it is suggested to lower the uncore initially, because it will require less core voltage to be stable.

I know the extra uncore doesn't make a huge difference in performance, but I prefer to keep it at least 300-400 MHz below the core multi. I was also using 43x uncore for my 4.7 OC, but I liked the lower temps of 4.6 while gaming.
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Has anyone seen more reports on Costa Rica chips? The cpu is the only thing missing in my upgrade list but all I see in local stores are Costa Rica 4770Ks, mostly batches starting with 3313 and 3315.

I really want to get at least 4.5ghz out of the cpu, keeping the voltages and temps fairly low as I don't have plans for a water loop.
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Has anyone seen more reports on Costa Rica chips? The cpu is the only thing missing in my upgrade list but all I see in local stores are Costa Rica 4770Ks, mostly batches starting with 3313 and 3315.

I really want to get at least 4.5ghz out of the cpu, keeping the voltages and temps fairly low as I don't have plans for a water loop.

 

All the recorded batch numbers are on the first page.
I have a Costa Rica chip, for example, look at my name/settings/batch number.

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All the recorded batch numbers are on the first page.

I have a Costa Rica chip, for example, look at my name/settings/batch number.

Oh I see now, Malaysia batches haven't gone as far as 330 or 331, I thought it was strange.

The usual three digit batch code that most people report come after the first number or character, L is for Malaysia and 3 is for Costa Rica. What those batch numbers are missing is the digit that comes after which is the 4th digit on the whole thing.
Edited by pacho - 9/10/13 at 6:19pm
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Oh I see now, Malaysia batches haven't gone as far as 330 or 331, I thought it was strange.

The usual three digit batch code that most people report come after the first number or character, L is for Malaysia and 3 is for Costa Rica. What those batch numbers are missing is the digit that comes after which is the 4th digit on the whole thing.

 

Data shows no significant impact on overclock performance based upon batch number.

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The stress test isn't.. the bench is (some version / implementation of it). The bench also runs a lot cooler the "slower" your RAM is which I thought odd (the stress test doesn't).

And not surprisingly, I noticed the same effect with Prime95; RAM at 1600 is 10C cooler than RAM at 2133, everything else the same.
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