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Probably better off just using manual voltage for now, until adaptive gets worked out - if you have the C states enabled the cores aren't getting any voltage when they are sleeping anyway, so it's not a huge power difference/savings.
What software are you using to monitor the voltage?

Problem is it seems my CPU is staying at 1.4v even when I disabled c states and went to override mode. It also went up to 1.416v on load. I set my voltage to 1.385. It's acting like adaptive but stays at 1.4v on default instead of a really low voltage... I dunno why.

 

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I use openhardware monitor.
Yeah... but it doesn't report voltages correctly. The only realtime voltage monitor that works I know of is HWMonitor. I have no other choice.
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Problem is it seems my CPU is staying at 1.4v even when I disabled c states and went to override mode. It also went up to 1.416v on load. I set my voltage to 1.385. It's acting like adaptive but stays at 1.4v on default instead of a really low voltage... I dunno why.

With C states disabled, and voltage override, it sounds like it should be staying at a high Vcore all the time. If you have the C states turned on though, the cores shouldn't be getting any voltage no matter what the voltage plane is at, since the cores are power gated in the lower C states.

HWInfo also shows the Vcore correctly, along with a lot of other interesting voltages and power draws. I've been using it mostly lately.
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thanks. then I need to set the c state to disable in order to work. cause I set it enable. and set the voltage overrider enable. I hope that should work for me.
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With C states disabled, and voltage override, it sounds like it should be staying at a high Vcore all the time. If you have the C states turned on though, the cores shouldn't be getting any voltage no matter what the voltage plane is at, since the cores are power gated in the lower C states.

HWInfo also shows the Vcore correctly, along with a lot of other interesting voltages and power draws. I've been using it mostly lately.

Thanks, I'll go check out HW info right now.

 

 

So there is a difference between adaptive and C states, can you explain it? I enabled both as a package, pretty much.

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The C states (and EIST) let the CPU lower the multiplier and the voltage, and then at deeper sleep states basically disable the voltage to the core altogether. Adaptive voltage just varies the voltage based on the core frequency. So if the C states are disabled (specifically EIST and C1E) then the chip won't downclock and the voltage won't go down because it is tied to the frequency. So using adaptive with the C states disabled should result in the frequency and voltage remaining the same all the time.

But...that's all based on the theory - I don't know how Asus and MSI actually implemented adaptive voltage control on their boards since I don't have one. So it may not work that way in practice. But I think if you want to use adaptive voltage, you'd also want to have the C states enabled to get the maximum benefit.

Or maybe I'm misunderstanding what is happening in your situation.
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The C states (and EIST) let the CPU lower the multiplier and the voltage, and then at deeper sleep states basically disable the voltage to the core altogether. Adaptive voltage just varies the voltage based on the core frequency. So if the C states are disabled (specifically EIST and C1E) then the chip won't downclock and the voltage won't go down because it is tied to the frequency. So using adaptive with the C states disabled should result in the frequency and voltage remaining the same all the time.

But...that's all based on the theory - I don't know how Asus and MSI actually implemented adaptive voltage control on their boards since I don't have one. So it may not work that way in practice. But I think if you want to use adaptive voltage, you'd also want to have the C states enabled to get the maximum benefit.

Or maybe I'm misunderstanding what is happening in your situation.

Yeah, my experience agrees with your description. I believe when I first enabled only adaptive, I couldn't get voltage to lower. I went to CPU settings, turned on C states and set it to c7. Then it worked.

 

Now I'm setting c states to disable and voltage to override like before and I'm at 1.4v lol. Same reading from HWmonitor and HWInfo.

 

I disabled Intel C state option on my mobo, set both CPU core voltage and ring bus voltage to 'manual override'.

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okay now, I disable c State and enable override voltage , so now the openhardwaremonitor and Hdmonitor is the same voltage.

set core is 44 and uncore is auto and set vcore is 1.25

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okay now, I disable c State and enable override voltage , so now the openhardwaremonitor and Hdmonitor is the same voltage.

set core is 44 and uncore is auto and set vcore is 1.25

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My openhardwaremonitor displays the glitchy 0.8v lol. For some reason it's not working just like v1.65.1 CPUZ.

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My openhardwaremonitor displays the glitchy 0.8v lol. For some reason it's not working just like v1.65.1 CPUZ.

I set the bios 1.25 and both apps say like 1.28 . it is .003 v more than I usually .I guess that is normal.
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First time OC'ing my 4670k. Set multi to 45, uncore at 34 (stock) and CPU voltage to 1.2v. Prime95 x64 v26.6 temps are max 65c with small FFT torture test. Is that any good? IBT max temps are 75c.

RAM is at 1333MHz currently although stock speed is 1600MHz.

CPU-Z validation: http://valid.canardpc.com/2883013

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