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Originally Posted by Menphisto View Post

Cpu-z shows the CPU vid not the core voltage, or?

Version 1.64.0 showed Vcore, but the newer ones all show VID. Try HWInfo and see if that works. But for an Asus board you might not be able to get it to read correctly no matter what.
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Originally Posted by wy2sl0 View Post

Im noticing though that my Uncore on my Gigabyte board won't go higher than 38x? Which is driving me nuts. Is this a glitch or something?

Try flashing a new BIOS, there was a bug in at least one of them that did this.
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Originally Posted by rickyman0319 View Post

It is strange. I ddl, and unzip prime95 28.1. I run it with 4.4ghz @ 1.328v. few minutes when it got fma. it crashed suddently.

it says that it is application faulty.

how do I fix this ?

The new Prime will likely take more Vcore than the older versions, those FMA instructions are a lot harder to pass.
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So with all of the heat issues with haswell obviously people are delidding to mixed results. TPU just released a guide today claiming that if you disable the onboard GPU before installing the OS it can reduce temperatures by as much as 30C. Anybody tried this or seen this anywhere else? This is the first I had heard of this little trick. Will probably test it out Monday or so once I get my OC dialed in a bit more.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Haswell_OC_Guide/7.html

Edit: Obviously this would only work if you are running a discrete GPU. My bad. Apparently guide was released yesterday. Just a little slow on the uptake tongue.gif
Edited by Clockwerk - 9/14/13 at 9:31pm
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So with all of the heat issues with haswell obviously people are delidding to mixed results. TPU just released a guide today claiming that if you disable the onboard GPU before installing the OS it can reduce temperatures by as much as 30C. Anybody tried this or seen this anywhere else? This is the first I had heard of this little trick. Will probably test it out Monday or so once I get my OC dialed in a bit more.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Haswell_OC_Guide/7.html

Edit: Obviously this would only work if you are running a discrete GPU. My bad. Apparently guide was released yesterday. Just a little slow on the uptake tongue.gif

Funny thing is...they never even ONCE mention it during the tutorial....they only mention it in the introduction, and just left us hanging....silly TPU

I personally think its way too good to be true....or else everybody else would have thought of this by now.
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Originally Posted by wy2sl0 View Post

I ran and passed all types of IBT but can't get prime 28.1 to pass.

1.275 vcore @ 4.5ghz with spikes of 90*C during the running...

That is delidded with a Mugen 3.....temps are just NUTS.

Well IBT is nuts.

 

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Originally Posted by Doug2507 View Post

What programmes in day to day life actually use AVX? I know Grid 2 does as an option but any others? At the moment i've changed from using Prime to XTU and what it's passing is getting ridiculous. I'm now about an hour away from 4.8Ghz@1.243v but i'm fairly certain/expecting when i put it through P95 (27.9) it'll bomb. I only use the rig for gaming & ripping the odd CD so is it worth my time getting AVX stable?

As the other guy said, that rendering video thingy. But from what I've been hearing from others (and a quick personal test) it seems that STRESSING AVX and only stressing AVX causes insane temps. If you encode or do normal AVX workloads the temps look quite normal. Keep that in mind. So IMO failing an AVX test due to temperature means nothing. Stability is more debatable.

 

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Originally Posted by Menphisto View Post

is there a performance boost from 4,5 Ghz to 4.6 GHz in games?

No.

Even if you run a CPU bottlenecked game (like Enemy Territory with like 50+ bots, singled threaded, 100% cpu load, 50% gpu load) you will struggle to feel any sort of difference. 
Chess is basically a CPU benchmark, you simply do not get any more CPU reliant than chess. Even then, if I run a looooooong chess tournament of 300 games at 15 minute time controls, that shaves off only 3-4 hours off the total time--- super small, a saving of ~3%? (Rough estimate)

Now some people questioned if any valid performance boost may be found from going 3.8 to 4.6 that is noticeable, the answer is yes in chess, possibly yes with a CPU bottlenecked game.

 

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So what settings should i run? ....i only do gaming... No bechmarking or other stuff like rendering videos etc.
1. 4.5 GHz @ 1.2v (silent PC)
2. 4.6 GHz @ 1.264v (loud PC)

Depends how much noise bothers you, lol.
And what you do with your computer. For most people, I think people would rather take the first option if given all the info. But I'm one of those that would take 2 for sure because of what I do on my computer and to be quite frank with you, a large part of it is psychological. Saving 3 hours after spending like 130 hours working on chess? The savings are insignificant.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT IT MAKES ME HAPPY TO KNOW I RUN 4.6GHZ AND IT HELPS ME SLEEP BETTER AT NIGHT AND IT MAKES ME FEEL LIKE A REAL MAN.

 

:thumbsups
 

My computer is *still* running chess every night and moment I can get it to run, so basically it's under stressful load around the clock.

 

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Originally Posted by [CyGnus] View Post

So guys what is the gains of overclocking uncore? I had it at 4.4GHz now i am at 3.8GHz and find no difference at all...

Hey Cygnus. Out of curiosity, where did you get that username?

 

To your question even though it probably has been answered, the answer is the gain is close to zero, undetectable unless you run a CPU benchmark like Cinebench, Chess, etc. Please refer to page 1 of this thread for charts showing the performance increase in relation to uncore increase.

 

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Originally Posted by Cyro999 View Post


x264 benefits largely from it. Programs using avx to run faster typically don't run it in anywhere near the same way as linpack or even prime do though, you don't even see a notable temperature elevation for avx2, while avx off vs avx2 in linpack can be 30c or even more
Pretty small, depends on application. I'd expect 4.7ghz core, 3.4ghz uncore to be slower than 4.6ghz core, 4.5ghz uncore maybe. If you're cinebenching on realtime priority, you should see.

The answer from my tests is a resounding NO. You would rather have the 100mhz higher core if it means uncore is at stock. As I noted in my original thread, going from stock to fully overclocked (even if you could, which you probably can't due to Bsods or unsafe uncore voltage) the performance improvement will be like a ~50mhz increase in core clock speed. So it's not even close.

 

My tests were run with Cinebench and Chess.

Details and specifics on first page.

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Originally Posted by Menphisto View Post

Is a uncore voltage of 1.23v safe 24/7?

Yes. You're fine.


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I want to delid so bad, but since I've hit my voltage wall, there is no point. Sad day.

Well... on the bright side you never had to bother with a delid and risk bricking your CPU for good to get better temps.

 

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anybody any idea why when I use a OC preset or activate a XMP profile in the BIOS of my Sabertooth Z87 it says Overclocking failed everytime after reboot?

I'm completely lost, unless the board is bust? Details of my build in my signature...

If the XMP profile on ram doesn't work on stock CPU, then SOMETHING is bust and needs RMA. Make sure you had BIOS update first though. 

 

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Originally Posted by wy2sl0 View Post

Just tried your way. Did Linx with the latest linpack 11.1 and got 134.08W @ 1.284 vcore.

Yeah it is more difficult than prime95.

Also some cores hit up to 98*C

Oh yeah man. Join the club, thing's nuts.

 

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Originally Posted by userman122 View Post

I need some help OCing my i5-4670K. My mobo is Z87-G43 GAMING. When I set CPU voltage to 1.3 and over, the text turns read? Why does this happen, and does it mean that, for instance, 1..30 for 4.4Ghz would be dangerous with that CPU and mobo? I'm new to this game.. biggrin.gif Help appreciated.

Err, you mean the z87-g45 gaming? There isn't a g43 gaming IIRC. I have the former.

MSI themself has added warning text, making the voltage red. It means if you want to use that voltage or higher you probably should know what you're doing, the ballpark of what is safe or not. For example some people if they overclock without seeking forum help would have considered doing something like, 1.45v core... Hmm, let's drag uncore to the same frequency and same voltage! BAD, that's not safe. So basically, each settings has their own values of what is safe or isn't. MSI wants you know that and warn you just in case you're screwing around with no idea what you're doing.

 

As I said in my guide, anything 1.45, 1.4 or under for Vcore is safe against degradation IMO. Not heat, that varies with system to system. Anything under 1.3, 1.25v is just fine for uncore. Anything under 2.0, 1.9v is just fine for VCCIN aka Input Voltage.

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Thanks for the help, +rep

I already listed it in the guide, I too am under the impression that a manually set higher Vrin is not necessary for lower voltages.

 

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Originally Posted by Doug2507 View Post

Cinebench @4.8...

Note: Uncore not stable. Not sure if uncore makes a big difference. Think that last run with 10.29 was with uncore left at x39.

If by 'not sure if it makes a big difference' you mean performance, a quick peek at my benchmarks on the first page proves there isn't a big difference.

 

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Username: rickyman0319

CPU Model: i7 4770k

Core Multiplier: 45x

CPU VID: 1.323v

Vcore: 1.328v

Uncore Multiplier: 40x

Uncore Voltage: 1.229

Cooling Solution: H80i

Stability Test: XTU @ 4 hrs

Batch Number: [Not required but helps people.] tell u later

Ram Speed: DDR3-1866

this chip is delidded with gelid extreme. ( die, IHS and top of the cpu)

Thanks Ricky, but I think you read your Vcore wrongly, it's 1.344v on peak. Approved for 4hr XTU @ Your settings but with 1.344v Vcore.

 

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Originally Posted by Menphisto View Post

Cpu-z shows the CPU vid not the core voltage, or?

Nowdays I don't even freakin' know. I think Latest CPUZ showed Vcore now instead of VID, but its values are still lower than HWmonitor (made by same guys as CPUZ) and HWinfo. I have less trust for CPUZ's readings as it was pretty fantastically off for the first... month or two when Haswell was out, lol. 

Three posts because for some reason OCN is glitching out on my tonight if I edit my posts.

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by Forceman View Post


Version 1.64.0 showed Vcore, but the newer ones all show VID. Try HWInfo and see if that works. But for an Asus board you might not be able to get it to read correctly no matter what.
Try flashing a new BIOS, there was a bug in at least one of them that did this.
The new Prime will likely take more Vcore than the older versions, those FMA instructions are a lot harder to pass.

Wow, just tested my CPUZ and it shows VID. I must be high.
TBH I think all of CPUZ's voltage readings are BS. Wouldn't trust it, changes over and over from version to version and all of them seem off.

 

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So with all of the heat issues with haswell obviously people are delidding to mixed results. TPU just released a guide today claiming that if you disable the onboard GPU before installing the OS it can reduce temperatures by as much as 30C. Anybody tried this or seen this anywhere else? This is the first I had heard of this little trick. Will probably test it out Monday or so once I get my OC dialed in a bit more.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Haswell_OC_Guide/7.html

Edit: Obviously this would only work if you are running a discrete GPU. My bad. Apparently guide was released yesterday. Just a little slow on the uptake tongue.gif

Smells like BS to me, lol. 
I'm not planning to reinstall my OS to test this, going to require serious evidence.

The idea sounds weird to me too. Only before installing OS? Why GPU? It's not like I'm stressing GPU when I'm running Cinebench.


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That's no brightside Darkwizzle! This is OCN! Push to the max and never look back. Who cares if I gain 10C for 1FPS. This is freaking OCN! /sarcasm tongue.gif
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My thoughts on Uncore OC requiring more Vcore:

I just drag the uncore to highest it'll go while still being stable without touching Vcore. Because you'll only manage an extra 100mhz on Uncore if you're lucky. If you're lucky. Emphasis on if. And how much performance benefit is that 100mhz uncore? Well what, 0.7ghz uncore change = 50mhz core change, that's 50/7mhz  Imagine having an overclock of an extra 8mhz in core clock speed. Will you notice? NO. You'll have a hard time finding differences even in Cinebench or Chess let alone gaming. Maybe if you're running your PC for 24/7 chess or encoding load you will notice gains, but by then go get an Ivy-Bridge E, lol. And by 24/7 I mean 24/7/365.

 

Do I also want the extra Vcore? No. Do I want to spend the extra time tweaking Vcore to suit an extra, possible, an extra 100mhz of uncore? Hell no.

 

Now if you want to that is your prerogative, write your settings down before trying it just in case things go south.

I admit, even with my computer uses, which is much more CPU reliant than most of you, that an increase in 100mhz CORE clock speed, the difference is for the most part psychological. 100mhz uncore? Puh-lease. :rolleyes:

 

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That's no brightside Darkwizzle! This is OCN! Push to the max and never look back. Who cares if I gain 10C for 1FPS. This is freaking OCN! /sarcasm tongue.gif

 

Bright side is you can donate your CPU to me if you don't like the way it overclocks. :band:


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So with all of the heat issues with haswell obviously people are delidding to mixed results. TPU just released a guide today claiming that if you disable the onboard GPU before installing the OS it can reduce temperatures by as much as 30C. Anybody tried this or seen this anywhere else? This is the first I had heard of this little trick. Will probably test it out Monday or so once I get my OC dialed in a bit more.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Haswell_OC_Guide/7.html

Edit: Obviously this would only work if you are running a discrete GPU. My bad. Apparently guide was released yesterday. Just a little slow on the uptake tongue.gif

Can't see this being true. I'd say 99% of us disable it already and we still see what we see, unless it's actually running without being able to see it anywhere! The note about before installing OS .. not sure why that'd matter.

add: also I've done Win8 "refresh" and "reinstall everything" multiple times since getting this.. no change of course. So unless someone goes out and does a format/secure erase on their drive and then comes saying all is magical now.. I just can't see it.
Edited by error-id10t - 9/15/13 at 12:03am
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hey guys, just did a quick render for school work and all cores at 100% load hit an average of around 53c and a max of 60c

Is this okay for a stcok 4670k with a hyper 212 ?

I only have 2 other fans in my case at the moment aswell, which I think could help the heat if I get more.

4670k @ 100% 18k .png file

Would I be able to overclock to 4.2ghz safely without getting too hot ?
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hey guys, just did a quick render for school work and all cores at 100% load hit an average of around 53c and a max of 60c

Is this okay for a stcok 4670k with a hyper 212 ?

I only have 2 other fans in my case at the moment aswell, which I think could help the heat if I get more.

4670k @ 100% 18k .png file

Would I be able to overclock to 4.2ghz safely without getting too hot ?

 

Probably. Only way to tell is to actually overclock it. As I said, stay under 95C, or 90C. You're not going to up temps from 60 to 90C going 3.8 (turbo) to 4.2ghz.

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