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Oh and the high uncore, I'm OCD - it KILLS me I can't run them 1/1. I could certainly dump more heat if it weren't for that. I ran 5.0 stable but it took me 1.625v and I actually cotemplated that 24/7 lol. IBT hits 90 though and we will be turning on the heat soon so I figured id better not tongue.gif

Although once my 780s arrive I will be able to get rid of all these 480s and hopefully run a little cooler lol!
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Lower Vccin to max 1.95v, Intel recommends as optimal 1.80v (max 2.30v), this is ~ 0.4-0.6v gap between cpuv and Vccin voltage.


If you plan to run at those voltages, especially Vccin you're about to kill it very Very soon.


About cache vring, it wont have any real difference if its at 40 or 46x, really. Only extra heat and voltage. I bet you would need ~1.15v for 42x. I did some testing in Cinebench11.5 and I actually got worse results at higher cache vring 44x then at lower 41x.
Also think of this cache vring as north bridge, just like by old i7 900 series (those had 2400 or 2800mhz if im not mistaken and it oc'ed poor)





Anyhow I did some Oc tweaking and here is my stable 4.7Ghz @ 1.283v, Vccin auto - 1.79v, cache vring 42x @ 1.137v, llc6, optimized PWM, 130% power limit; ram Oc'ed to 2200mhz




Max temp per core in x264 avx benchmark was 76-73-72-64C


4.8Ghz booted at 1.28v, but wasnt stable in OS until at 1.31v

4.9Ghz booted at 1.29v and to OS only halfway... I didnt test further

5ghz booted at 1.30v and to OS only halfway, I guess I could get away with ~ 1.35v but im kinda scarred to run at that voltage lol
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Ask and u shall receive I suppose (screenshots). Though I've never been asked to prove I have a slightly above average overclock at high voltage. Like I said, I think my ram or something else is causing instability. I can run all stress tests at lower voltages but prime blend is the bane of my existence. Until I get that to pass Atleast 8 hours, ill never get it outta my head.

I am most definately not on phase, I wish. And use your noodle, if I was on that - let alone dice or LN my temps would be more like -80 tongue.gif

I'm running ek blocks on my 480s (they hit 41 under load) and a supremacy on my cpu. (Its delid and ran naked) I use the same pump as everyone (mcp655)
And it's all being cooled with 2 xspc Rx series rads. A 360 and a 240.

Fan wise I have ungentle typhoon ap31s (150cfm)

Ill get pics up when I get home tongue.gif

 

New rule: When somebody mentions "prime" they have to mention the Prime version.

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Lower Vccin to max 1.95v, Intel recommends as optimal 1.80v (max 2.30v), this is ~ 0.4-0.6v gap between cpuv and Vccin voltage.


If you plan to run at those voltages, especially Vccin you're about to kill it very Very soon.


About cache vring, it wont have any real difference if its at 40 or 46x, really. Only extra heat and voltage. I bet you would need ~1.15v for 42x. I did some testing in Cinebench11.5 and I actually got worse results at higher cache vring 44x then at lower 41x.
Also think of this cache vring as north bridge, just like by old i7 900 series (those had 2400 or 2800mhz if im not mistaken and it oc'ed poor)





Anyhow I did some Oc tweaking and here is my stable 4.7Ghz @ 1.283v, Vccin auto - 1.79v, cache vring 42x @ 1.137v, llc6, optimized PWM, 130% power limit; ram Oc'ed to 2200mhz

  


Max temp per core in x264 avx benchmark was 76-73-72-64C


4.8Ghz booted at 1.28v, but wasnt stable in OS until at 1.31v

4.9Ghz booted at 1.29v and to OS only halfway... I didnt test further

5ghz booted at 1.30v and to OS only halfway, I guess I could get away with ~ 1.35v but im kinda scarred to run at that voltage lol

I don't trust Intel's info on voltage. It's always been too conservative.

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Well I know one reviewer @ techpowerup and he killed around ten 47x0K testing various voltages for OC guide review., and he specifically said dont go over 2.0v by Vccin, even 1.95v is kinda dangerous in the longer term..
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Hey guys, how reputable are the following synthetic stress testers?

- AIDA64
- Prime 95 27.9
- Prime 95 28.1
- Intel Burn Test latest

Is AIDA64 any good at catching bad OCs? Last I heard it was "certified" for Haswell, but it wasn't any good at catching bad OCs. For example, folks would go 12+ hours of AIDA64 but fail within 15 minutes of BF3....something like that.
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Hey guys, how reputable are the following synthetic stress testers?

- AIDA64
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- Intel Burn Test latest

Is AIDA64 any good at catching bad OCs? Last I heard it was "certified" for Haswell, but it wasn't any good at catching bad OCs. For example, folks would go 12+ hours of AIDA64 but fail within 15 minutes of BF3....something like that.

Use prime 27.9 if you don't use any programs that use avx2 otherwise use the lastest prime.

If you're gaming 27.9 is a very good stress test.
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Hey guys, how reputable are the following synthetic stress testers?

- AIDA64
- Prime 95 27.9
- Prime 95 28.1
- Intel Burn Test latest

Is AIDA64 any good at catching bad OCs? Last I heard it was "certified" for Haswell, but it wasn't any good at catching bad OCs. For example, folks would go 12+ hours of AIDA64 but fail within 15 minutes of BF3....something like that.

Well I as stable in Prime95, Aida and IBT but failed in Bf3 too, I then tweaked the voltage around Bf3 64player b2k until it stopped bsod or freeze.

Imo all these stress tests are kinda useless use real world apps and game benchmarks to see whats up..

3dmark vantage cpu test looped
Metro2033 @ high benchmark
Resident Evil 6 benchmark , 5 too even more.
FFXIV reborn
Hitman Absolution
Tombraider 2013
MaxPayne3
NaturalSelection2
SleepingDogs
Grid2

All these will crash for sure on unstable Oc - also use 720p reso by benchmarks to stress cpu to max.


edit:

X264 (avx) benchmark is also a good stability indicator, if it crashes with x264.exe stopped working then you're almost stable, raise 0.2-0.5v and test again.
Edited by TheHunter - 9/18/13 at 5:08pm
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Well I know one reviewer @ techpowerup and he killed around ten 47x0K testing various voltages for OC guide review., and he specifically said dont go over 2.0v by Vccin, even 1.95v is kinda dangerous in the longer term..

 

And longer term hasn't even occurred yet, nobody really knows yet. All we have are assumptions.

On the other hand I don't think anybody needs over 2v. By the time you need it you probably know you're going to blow up your chip via vcore.

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Well I know one reviewer @ techpowerup and he killed around ten 47x0K testing various voltages for OC guide review., and he specifically said dont go over 2.0v by Vccin, even 1.95v is kinda dangerous in the longer term..

And longer term hasn't even occurred yet, nobody really knows yet. All we have are assumptions.
On the other hand I don't think anybody needs over 2v. By the time you need it you probably know you're going to blow up your chip via vcore.

he is running 2.2v vrin which is suicide in my eyes apparently he likes the chances of frying the chip within a couple months maybe even weeks or days why dont you just point a 38 revolver at your machine with 1 random round in the revolver and play russian rullet with the machine.

I have always been known to push stuff but man that is nuts voltage and I dont know how long it will last you it might fry tonight who knows maybe tommorow you might as well be cranking a 500hp shot of nitrous to a stock mustang or comaro something in end will end badly likely with a bit of smoke maybe even flames involved.
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he is running 2.2v vrin which is suicide in my eyes apparently he likes the chances of frying the chip within a couple months maybe even weeks or days why dont you just point a 38 revolver at your machine with 1 random round in the revolver and play russian rullet with the machine.

I have always been known to push stuff but man that is nuts voltage and I dont know how long it will last you it might fry tonight who knows maybe tommorow you might as well be cranking a 500hp shot of nitrous to a stock mustang or comaro something in end will end badly likely with a bit of smoke maybe even flames involved.

 

It's very hard to read your posts because each paragraph is one sentence. :(

One report of death at 2.2v. I know a person running above that no problems. So who knows?
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