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Great guide Darkwizzie!
Just read it and skimmed the replies.

I have a few questions for you guys:

I had 4.6GHz stable @ 1.3v stress testing with IBT, Prime95 and AIDA64 for a day and a half.
Thinking everything was good, I started folding on full (100% CPU, 100% GPU) and crashed -_-
BSOD 0x000101, so I upped the VCore. 1.32, 1.33, 1.34 and now 1.35v
1.35v in BIOS, HWMonitor reads 1.376 when F@H is running full, 1.38+ when stress testing

I am trying to get ready for the foldathon the 23rd-25th.

My settings is as follows:
Core 4.6GHz
Ring core 4.4GHz
VCCIN 1.9v
VCore 1.35v
Ring Vcore 1.25v
EIST off
adaptive off

Is it normal to have a seemingly stable CPU at 1.3v and still crashing at 1.34 when folding? Should I raise VCore even more if im still crashing at 1.35?
My temps is not a problem.. and wont be untill I hit 1.4v or above.
I havent played with LLC, PPL, Offsets or any other stuff (since I dont really know what all of them do)

Could the GPU bring down the system? :S It haven't let me down in any games / stress tests, so kinda doubt it.
It is +140mhz on core and +500 on mem, but I put it back to stock after the first F@H crash, and still got BSOD.

Darkwizzie since we got same Board and CPU, maybe you could share some of your settings? especially the offsets if you use them?
I know my chip falls short for an average chip.. but I'm happy with 4.6 if I can get it stable.

Thanks!
 
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Your chip should be average or slightly above average chip.

 

I think LLC PPL won't do much. You might have limited success with Io/SA voltages. I was going for 4.6ghz as well but I was getting bsod sporadically. Could be after 5 minutes of work, or after continuous 24 hours of work. It varies a lot.

 

You could try playing around with input voltage. Limited data suggests it might be related. Emphasis on limited. One thing that might be worth doing is taking the uncore and ram back to stock but stressing with folding instead. Finally, you still have voltage wiggle room, so give that a try too.

 

 

Once you hit the higher frequencies, 4.6, for example, it becomes harder and harder to pinpoint what exactly is causing the bsods, and if you're unlucky you're going to be spending a long time ironing out what's what. There are many variables and how they interact with all the other variables is kind of a mystery. But I definately wouldn't give up without at least giving my suggestions a shot. If you're IBT, Prime stable for sure then you can't be TOO far off from stability.

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Io/SA voltages, what is this? dont see anything like this in BIOS.

Input voltage is VCCIN yes?
I tried with 1.8 (stock) 1.9 and 2.0. didnt want to go any higher.
Quote:
Could be after 5 minutes of work, or after continuous 24 hours of work. It varies a lot.
Hmm.. so might not be stable after all. and F@H just pushes it over the top.

If / when I get my next BSOD I will try lower ram to? 1600?
maybe lowering the ring core to see if that helps (as I read here, it might)

Thanks!

*Edit*
Just noticed Im running 1600mhz on ram ATM (forgot I change it after last BSOD, Lol)
so if no BSOD, Ill put it back to 1866 and see how it goes
 
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No luck with per-core overclocking; 48x for 1 & 2 cores active and 47x for 3 & 4 cores active crashes in my games. I'm guessing I'd need my 48x voltages to pull that off, so it's pointless. Games showed only a few barely measurable blips of 48x here and there anyways, so there's nothing to gain.
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Originally Posted by GaMbi2004 View Post

Io/SA voltages, what is this? dont see anything like this in BIOS.

Input voltage is VCCIN yes?
I tried with 1.8 (stock) 1.9 and 2.0. didnt want to go any higher.
Hmm.. so might not be stable after all. and F@H just pushes it over the top.

If / when I get my next BSOD I will try lower ram to? 1600?
maybe lowering the ring core to see if that helps (as I read here, it might)

Thanks!

*Edit*
Just noticed Im running 1600mhz on ram ATM (forgot I change it after last BSOD, Lol)
so if no BSOD, Ill put it back to 1866 and see how it goes

 

Well, by work I mean chess. Chess is also 100% load on all cores.

Io voltages are like Io Analog, Io Digital voltage, SA is... I think it just says SA in bios.
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IBT, Prime and AIDA uses 100% too.
Im fairly sure I would pass chess as well.
My only problem is when running F@H.
Have been running full for 7 hours now, still nothing smile.gif so fingers crossed I hit the right VCore with 1.35
 
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Alright good luck, tell us how it goes. Bring us the good news! :thumb:

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IBT, Prime and AIDA uses 100% too.
Im fairly sure I would pass chess as well.
My only problem is when running F@H.
Have been running full for 7 hours now, still nothing smile.gif so fingers crossed I hit the right VCore with 1.35

i'm not sure if this is applicable or not. but i'll just say it.

people say too much voltage is also bad as too much voltage, right?

what LLC are you using? if you are not using LLC or using a lower level, maybe when you run the real stress testers like Prime, the VRIN drops to a voltage that is stable, but at when you are not stressing that much (even though it is still 100% CPU usage), the VRIN might be higher. so maybe your low level LLC (or higher input voltage) is making you unstable?

who knows.
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I am using my settings for 4.6ghz on 4.5ghz. No stability issues at all.

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Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
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Samsung 950 Pro 512gb (Undelwalt) WD Red 2tb (Pack Yak II) Seagate Expansion Drive 5tb (Phoenix Down II) 3x560mm HardwareLabs Nemesis GTX 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XPSC Raystorm Pro Watercool Heatkiller 1080ti Full Cover Waterblock EK XTOP Revo Dual D5 (Serial, PWM, v4) EK ZMT (1/2 - 3/4 ID OD) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
14xEK ACF (Compression Fittings) EK x4 250 (v2) Distilled Water + PT Nuke (Copper Sulphate) 24x140mm Silent Wings 3 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro 64bit Catleap 27 Inch 2560x1440 IPS 60hz Display Coolermaster Storm Trigger (Brown Switches) EVGA P2 1000w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Air 540 Logitech G Pro Tek Syndicate "Raze the World" Desk Mat O2 + Odac by Mayflower Electronics (Rev A) 
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Sennheiser HD 800 2xKrk Rokit 6 G2 Blue Yeti (Grey) Rode PSA-1 Arm 
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Aquaero 6 LT + Aluminum Heatsink 
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Quote:
Intel recommends as optimal 1.80v

Intel does not report optimal as 1.8v, that's their DEFAULT value with droop. Lower or higher can be better and not dangerous. More is not always better.
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