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The folks over at hwbot have a list of batches going. Its a good read!
http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=73933

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The folks over at hwbot have a list of batches going. Its a good read!
http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=73933

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Their results consistently seem higher than what I'm seeing here. That's very odd.

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Originally Posted by ChrisB17 View Post

Just got my 4670k in the mail. Its batch L313B434. Bad or good? I have a feeling bad.

There's also a chart of results on first page of this thread.

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Originally Posted by GaMbi2004 View Post

Just short of 10 hours folding without BSOD now smile.gif
I think Uncore back on Auto did the trick. lets give it another 10 and see how it goes smile.gif
I will still look into those other settings! just dont know if it is gonna be before or after the foldathon smile.gif rather not screw it up just before it starts tongue.gif

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Look what I maid while testing ^^
a homemade backplate for my GPU (for looks only!)

Before / After tongue.gif
Turned out great ! ^^ more pics can be found in my build log in about 30 min if anyone should be interested.

My guide says batch numbers don't matter.

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Originally Posted by GaMbi2004 View Post

Just short of 10 hours folding without BSOD now smile.gif
I think Uncore back on Auto did the trick. lets give it another 10 and see how it goes smile.gif
I will still look into those other settings! just dont know if it is gonna be before or after the foldathon smile.gif rather not screw it up just before it starts tongue.gif

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Look what I maid while testing ^^
a homemade backplate for my GPU (for looks only!)

Before / After tongue.gif
Turned out great ! ^^ more pics can be found in my build log in about 30 min if anyone should be interested.

 

I want a backplate for my 7970 ghz edition, too large, needs the support. People were complaining on Newegg. I think it might warp long term over its own weight... :sad-smile


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Their results consistently seem higher than what I'm seeing here. That's very odd.

There's also a chart of results on first page of this thread.
My guide says batch numbers don't matter.

I want a backplate for my 7970 ghz edition, too large, needs the support. People were complaining on Newegg. I think it might warp long term over its own weight... sad-smiley-002.gif

At hwbot most of those aren't stability tested clocks, the voltage needed to boot 5Ghz & maybe run a light load like superpi is used for binning so a lot of the results are doing that.
The batches are still pretty random, but when several people get good results with identical batch it can show a better-than-average batch, although there can still be terrible chips with the same batch #.
    
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This is interesting... how did you arrive at the different FFT sizes to test various voltages?

I got these values from other forum. Unfortunately no one could answer me the question where these values originated.
But many members there do test their systems with those FFT values and I made positive experiences as well.
By testing these values with Prime 27.9 I made my I5 4670k very stable. Games, Handbrake, Cinebench, etc. no more crashes.
Also less time consuming to find instabilities with your overclock. Prime 27.9 1344K for 30 min is very good for Vcore. smile.gif
Edited by Alxx - 9/19/13 at 6:30pm
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I got these values from other forum. Unfortunately no one could answer me the question where these values originated.
But many members there do test their systems with those FFT values and I made positive experiences as well.
By testing these values with Prime 27.9 I made my I5 4670k very stable. Games, Handbrake, Cinebench, etc. no more crashes.
Also less time consuming to find instabilities with your overclock. Prime 27.9 1344K for 30 min is very good for Vcore. smile.gif
what sort of error do you get? 0x124 BSOD all the time or the error codes are different?
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I have a chance to get 4770k with OCing results like this:

The result is on air cooling. The Seller claims that it can easily hit 4.8GhZ but the temp. raise to 90C .

What do You think ? Is this chip worth trying ? I asked about the batch... Will update soon.

Thanks for Your opinions
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Hello forum.

Since im more into overclocking these days i ran into some questions and thought this is the place to discuss them (these forums atleast, if this thread aint correct place to ask them please feel free to point me in right direction).

Anyway...

Im a proud owner of a:
Asus z87-Plus
Intel i5 4670k
Kingston 2133Mhz Hyper X 16GB
Zalman ZM-600w
Zalman 9700cu@silent

Before i bought new platform i read up on Haswell and i was into opinion that even lousiest of boards can get up to 4.4Ghz@1.25v and some review with exactly same board and cpu got up to 4.6Ghz at same voltage.

Now i know that every board and cpu performs differently and im fine with that but i got few questions.

Atm my system runs on 4.2Ghz@ adaptive/1.3V with RAM on 2133Mhz XMP and is solid stable, i can probably go bit further with higher voltage but not much.

1. How does higher voltage damage chip, is it because of something voltage does or is it due to heat generated?

2. Can PSU slow down the whole overclocking procedure?

3. Should i go for higher voltage to get to higher ghz (4.4 was my main goal while i bought it ) without damaging anything or do you have any other tips?

4. Why is Adaptive voltage not recommended while doing stress tests?

Some extra info. My quick stresstest with Adaptive voltage showed temps peaking 70c and cpu asking for not more than 1.37v while running at 4.3Ghz, even tho testing was ok i got bsod while playing Rome 2.
While keeping the voltage at 1.25 i cannot get any higher than 4.0Ghz (and yes ive lowered RAM MHz etc while testing).

Right now my temps are around 45 - 5c (max ive seen while playing) @4.2Ghz and 1.3V adaptive, and what ive read the treshhold is 85c so assuming the only problem coming from volt is heat i got plenty of headroom? or not?

Don't get me wrong im quite happy with 4.2Ghz but i am worried since i have read that one shouldn't go over 1.25V.
Sorry for the wall of text, but any info and tips are welcomed.
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Edited by Ivo81 - 9/20/13 at 2:33am
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90ºc is pretty common for a 4770K @ that high my CPU at 4.5GHz in Aida 64 with 6gb ram usage hits 86ºc in x264 benchmark goes to 77ºc but if i use prime 95 it hits 100ºc
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I have a chance to get 4770k with OCing results like this:

The result is on air cooling. The Seller claims that it can easily hit 4.8GhZ but the temp. raise to 90C .

What do You think ? Is this chip worth trying ? I asked about the batch... Will update soon.

Thanks for Your opinions

Depends what stress it can take, ask him to run x264 bench
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Hello forum.

Since im more into overclocking these days i ran into some questions and thought this is the place to discuss them (these forums atleast, if this thread aint correct place to ask them please feel free to point me in right direction).

Anyway...

Im a proud owner of a:
Asus z87-Plus
Intel i5 4670k
Kingston 2133Mhz Hyper X 16GB
Zalman ZM-600w
Zalman 9700cu@silent

Before i bought new platform i read up on Haswell and i was into opinion that even lousiest of boards can get up to 4.4Ghz@1.25v and some review with exactly same board and cpu got up to 4.6Ghz at same voltage.

Now i know that every board and cpu performs differently and im fine with that but i got few questions.

Atm my system runs on 4.2Ghz@ adaptive/1.3V with RAM on 2133Mhz XMP and is solid stable, i can probably go bit further with higher voltage but not much.

1. How does higher voltage damage chip, is it because of something voltage does or is it due to heat generated?

2. Can PSU slow down the whole overclocking procedure?

3. Should i go for higher voltage to get to higher ghz (4.4 was my main goal while i bought it ) without damaging anything or do you have any other tips?

4. Why is Adaptive voltage not recommended while doing stress tests?

Some extra info. My quick stresstest with Adaptive voltage showed temps peaking 70c and cpu asking for not more than 1.37v while running at 4.3Ghz, even tho testing was ok i got bsod while playing Rome 2.
While keeping the voltage at 1.25 i cannot get any higher than 4.0Ghz (and yes ive lowered RAM MHz etc while testing).

Right now my temps are around 45 - 5c (max ive seen while playing) @4.2Ghz and 1.3V adaptive, and what ive read the treshhold is 85c so assuming the only problem coming from volt is heat i got plenty of headroom? or not?

Don't get me wrong im quite happy with 4.2Ghz but i am worried since i have read that one shouldn't go over 1.25V.
Sorry for the wall of text, but any info and tips are welcomed.
.

 

Imagine if I gave the light bulb double the power it was designed to take. It'll burn out in an instant. But if you give it only a bit more than the power it's supposed to have, it'll shine brighter than it should.

 
I don't think PSU has impact on OC provided the PSU is of decent quality.
 
Like the guide says, just stay out of too high temp or too high voltage, whichever you hit first.
 
Because as the guide says, stressing synthetics with adaptive causes extra voltage to be applied to the CPU. Not a little, a LOT of extra voltage which may suddenly take you into throttling point or damage the CPU by voltage.

 

I think you're confusing uncore voltage with core voltage. The uncore aka ring bus aka cache ratio voltage shouldn't really exceed 1.3 or 1.35v max to be pretty safe. In terms of core voltage, it should not exceed 1.45, 1.5v to prevent voltage degradation. I'm completely factoring heat out of the equation here. So you have plenty of voltage headroom.

 

Also CPU overclocking performance is now primarily based upon the CPU not the mobo. 

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