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sorry for my noobness,

How to take screenshots of my Asus HERO BIOS settings?
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sorry for my noobness,

How to take screenshots of my Asus HERO BIOS settings?

F12 and save to a thumb drive
 
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F12 and save to a thumb drive

Thx!
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Thx!

No problem! If you need anymore help just ask

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Did you increase your VRIN?

I think it's at 1.15..? I'd take some screen caps but my BIOS keep freezing when I do.

What would you suggest as a good point to try out?

I'll go try and take a screen cap real quick.

Edit managed 1 screen then my BIOS froze, keeps doing that after 1 shot:



Clock Ratio: 43
Uncore: 35
LLC: High
VCore: 1.240
CPU Ring: 1.115
CPU VRIN Protection: Auto (stock)

Are these the ones I change?



Thanks for any help.
PCH Core: 1.090 (stock)
PCH IO: 1.500 (stock

That's what I'm using for 4.3 GHz
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Try a VRIN of 1.85 and then turn it up to 44 or 44 and try that. If it doesn't even boot up, you can up your voltage to 1.3 depending on your cooling solution. If that doesn't work you can up your VRIN up to 2.0, I wouldn't go any higher than 1.3 on vcore if you don't have a custom water cooling or very high end AIO water cooler. like the Swiftech H220 or possibly the Corsair H100.

You might have a really good chip considering that you can boot up with 4.3 and using stock VRIN. Make sure to read over the guide in the OP to get a better idea of how to OC your chip.
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Originally Posted by klepp0906 View Post


you would have to be or you wouldn't have a chip anymore =P

Well I actually ran 1.504v on Vcore once, but I got close to 95C on chess, plus it wasn't fully stable so I stopped.

 

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I used Prime 95 64bit latest version, using blended test. I don't know how long it would be stable in large or small FFT, but I mostly game and watch movies and internet related things.

Also as far as the values in the other pages a lot comes from my i7 920 days see post above. Eventually I hope my temps will go down after I get my 7970 back from RMA and I disable intel graphics and I want to push the CPU further.

You know how I feel about Prime 95's latest version, right?

 

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Originally Posted by crashdummy35 View Post


I think it's at 1.15..? I'd take some screen caps but my BIOS keep freezing when I do.

What would you suggest as a good point to try out?

I'll go try and take a screen cap real quick.

Edit managed 1 screen then my BIOS froze, keeps doing that after 1 shot:



Clock Ratio: 43
Uncore: 35
LLC: High
VCore: 1.240
CPU Ring: 1.115
CPU VRIN Protection: Auto (stock)

Are these the ones I change?



Thanks for any help.
PCH Core: 1.090 (stock)
PCH IO: 1.500 (stock

That's what I'm using for 4.3 GHz

 

Jesus that bios is more confusing than I thought.

If you are on 1.15v Vrin you will need more than that eventually. People have been setting anywhere from 1.5 to 2.0, varying a lot. Vring should always be a bit higher than Vcore, and if Vcore is too high you might need to raise Vring. There has been unconfirmed talks about how too high Vrin causes instability. But no evidence of this happening so far.

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Thanks guys.

Coming from a 775 rig, this Haswell BIOS is ultra confusing. I've been reading through the guides but, it is gonna take me some time to fully absorb this new stuff. Thanks for the tips. thumb.gif

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Go to classic mode (right click background then click it) much less confusing.
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There has been unconfirmed talks about how too high Vrin causes instability. But no evidence of this happening so far.

I thought this was common/accepted knowledge? I'm stable on far less vcore for 4.2 when i'm using 1.6vrin instead of 2.0, and 1.76 vs 1.85vrin for my 4.7 clocks cut like 0.015-0.02 from vcore i needed there, too

In my experience in every case, having vrin in the right zone is far better than having it significantly too low or significantly too high
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I came from 775 myself. It's not too bad once you do all the reading. Let me tell ya, life is quite a bit easier once you know what everything does.
I didn't read too far back but if your having instability under load with those settings and a few more vcore bumps aren't doing it, start by manually setting your voltages. The page with the filtering and stuff is mostly high end PWM and for more extreme oc'ing than you are doing.

Make sure you have LLC on extreme, turn your vrin to 1.9 (no ss of the page so assuming its on auto/1.8) and add .1 to your sa/ioa/iod voltages. If your still having trouble after that and say 1.275v then the instability isn't coming from The chip or uncore - look into memory settings.

Again, if it's mentioned before, I apologize, I came late and tend to skim but I didn't notice. The PCH voltages are fine at stock as well but setting them manually saves from the PC overdoing it and costing you temps. That goes for nearly all of them. If your not using integrated graphics I also found that by dropping the clockspeed to the minimum and voltage to the minimum helps lower end temps a bit.

Can't really offer much more without much more info. Which tests are you passing vs failing, memory timings and quantity/type (I'm sure it was mentioned) but for the most part, common sense, some reading, and a loooooooot of time spent doing the trial and error thing will dial you in.

A lot of people will do any ram tightening or overclocking first so they can remove that from the equation stability wise. That's up to you, but be damn sure you do the core before uncore and completely separate. Find your 100% certain stable core/voltage limit then start on uncore as it is much less important and will introduce much instability once you get up there.

Separation really helps save time in diagnosing any instability that arises. Even though it shouldn't be too bad if your not going too much higher than you already are with your chip. Trying to find its clockspeed wall, that's a diff story. I learned the hard way moving the core and uncore simultaneously in an attempt to keep them 1:1. Ouch! Futile behind 4.6-4.7 (uncore) where it became impossible. I'm convinced uncore will crap out long before core on all chips. I can post and verify at much higher than 5 at reasonably low voltages whereas nothing will get my uncore stable past 4.7 and realistically 4.6 ( cause 4.7 takes much more vring than I am comfortable with which will try your chip much easier than vcore will)

Anyhow, I'm carrying on to an extreme degree. I apologize!
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