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Has someone an idea what bsod 9c mean?
Thanks for help.
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you will rather see system restart without BSOD when VRING is too low and VRIN has been adjusted accordingly.
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Has someone an idea what bsod 9c mean?
Thanks for help.

increase analog and digital i/o voltage (=VTT)
post #3494 of 19539
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Originally Posted by Alxx View Post

I will do some more testing with uncore x33 or else because it is 4670K. I set uncore x34 it will rise to x40. Also going to watch Vrin under load.
Probably needs more Vcore + something else.... I won't give up.

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Try increasing VRIN. I can get my system to throw 101s by lowering the VRIN on otherwise stable overclocks. Lowering Vcore or Vring generates 124 errors for me.

I wonder if what we are seeing with this is different parts of the chip being weak, and that being the cause for so many different errors. Maybe one chip has a relatively bad VRM, and so it is susceptible to VRIN, while another chip may have a bad ring bus, which makes it susceptible to Vring voltages. There is just too much variability in what causes what error for different people to make any sense out of it.
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Try increasing VRIN. I can get my system to throw 101s by lowering the VRIN on otherwise stable overclocks. Lowering Vcore or Vring generates 124 errors for me.

I wonder if what we are seeing with this is different parts of the chip being weak, and that being the cause for so many different errors. Maybe one chip has a relatively bad VRM, and so it is susceptible to VRIN, while another chip may have a bad ring bus, which makes it susceptible to Vring voltages. There is just too much variability in what causes what error for different people to make any sense out of it.

Vring generates only 101
Vcore is 124
Vrin can be either 124 or 101 (put this at a low voltage and run a test multiple times, the error will alternate between 101 or 124)

This is noted after 3 months of continuous testing.
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Vring generates only 101

Nope. Vring can also generate 124 errors. I've also tested it extensively since June, and I spent several hours just last week working on increasing my uncore and I was getting 124 errors aplenty as I played with Vring.
post #3497 of 19539
you gotto adjust VRIN accordingly when you change vcore or vring.

when you dont do this you will run into 101 sooner or later

you increase/decrease vcore or vring you gotto increase/decrease vrin as well

all is tied together ... thats what makes it a PITA or a challenge ... depends on point of view. tongue.gif
post #3498 of 19539
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Vrin can be either 124 or 101

VRIN and ratio's between it and vcore or ring are connected pretty tightly i think it can cause problems with anything. I've seen 124's on the ring when close to stable (edging down from 1.18 to 1.17 for example) but at higher clocks it's been entirely hard lock system, or 101 - often with hard lock halfway through crash dump, for ring instability
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post #3499 of 19539
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I wonder if what we are seeing with this is different parts of the chip being weak, and that being the cause for so many different errors. Maybe one chip has a relatively bad VRM, and so it is susceptible to VRIN, while another chip may have a bad ring bus, which makes it susceptible to Vring voltages. There is just too much variability in what causes what error for different people to make any sense out of it.

I think this is certainly a point there.
Don't know what causes error 101, but with this x264 benchmark and 4,5 Ghz for me it was like this:
1,22 Vcore
1,13 ring
1,81 Vccin/Vrin freezed generated error 101.
Only raised Vcore to 1,24v and I could pass x264. So in that case error 101 solution was raising vcore. I would consider my Vrin and Vring setting quite optimal for 4,5 Ghz.

I checked to pass x264 @4,6 Ghz with very low uncore x33 and x35 same thing, still System Freeze and Error 101.
Tried this with 1,29 Vcore same thing. Maybe my chip really needs much more vcore for 46 multi to be stable in x264, just don't know yet...
Edited by Alxx - 10/4/13 at 3:25pm
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What would you put it down to? VRIN is related to Ring, and i'm not sure where else to put the blame

VRIN i agree with but it's 100% not VRING. I've proven this myself by leaving VRING at 1.15v the whole time i've been clocking the core and throwing up 101's.
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