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4770k @ 44 , 1.210v http://gyazo.com/565074edf1fcbb3b1b0f43a8c6715ecc.png

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Edited by Chomuco - 10/4/13 at 3:06pm
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Originally Posted by Alxx View Post

I think this is certainly a point there.
Don't know what causes error 101, but with this x264 benchmark and 4,5 Ghz for me it was like this:
1,22 Vcore
1,13 ring
1,81 Vccin/Vrin freezed generated error 101.
Only raised Vcore to 1,24v and I could pass x264. So in that case error 101 solution was raising vcore. I would consider my Vrin and Vring setting quite optimal for 4,5 Ghz.

I checked to pass x264 with very low uncore x33 and x35 same thing, still System Freeze and Error 101.
Tried this with 1,29 Vcore same thing. Maybe my chip really needs much more vcore for 46 multi to be stable in x264, just don't know yet...

Vring has nothing to do with the core clock.

What uncore multi did you have set when you passed x264?

Did you bring up vring when you changed to x33, pass x264, set uncore to x35 then bring up vring again?

From my experience i'd set vring to 1.15v, leave your uncore at x33 (4670k?), change to next core multi up, increase vcore by .005v, run from current stable vrin up to 1.9-2.0v, if not stable drop vrin back down, increase core by .005v then try again. You will find stability doing this then can fine tune voltages if you wish when you settle on a specific core multi.

One of the key things when using x264 i've found (and what makes it so useful) is to watch it! It'll give you an idea of whats working and whats not due to the run/pass count and % indicator.
Edited by Doug2507 - 10/4/13 at 3:07pm
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http://www.overclock.net/t/1411077/haswell-overclocking-thread-with-statistics/3470#post_20921312

That is my Problem. You can read what I set smile.gif
4,5 (uncore x39)pass, 4,6 (uncore x39)no pass error 101....
Edited by Alxx - 10/4/13 at 3:44pm
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Originally Posted by Doug2507 View Post

VRIN i agree with but it's 100% not VRING. I've proven this myself by leaving VRING at 1.15v the whole time i've been clocking the core and throwing up 101's.

Intriguing, ty
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I want to contribute my experiences with X264 Benchmark.
First my 4,5 settings
1,22 vcore i can do Handbrake, cinebench, Games, no crashes at all for 6 weeks now.
1,245 vcore for Prime avx 27.9 1344K test
1,81 Vrin seems to be optimal, lower crashes 124, higher crashes 124. llc high so far.
1,13 for x39 Vring seems to be the best, lower I think I also got 124. Higher would be unstable as well.

Tested 4,5 Ghz x264 with 1,22 vcore, would crash in first run shortly after beginning the second test. Error 101 tested this repeatedly.
Raised vcore then to 1.24, x 264 would pass 2 runs with two tests each. Stopped then, had no more time.

Yesterday tested x264 at multi x46 but no success.
Vcore 1,255-1,3
Vrin 1,85-89 1,87 seems best. llc high or standard makes no difference tested with 1,84-1.89.
Vring x39 1,13-1,15 1,135 seems best
SA IOA/D +0,0 would crash + 02,03,02 lasted longer + 05,06, 05 no difference as 02,03,02
It will crash first run in second test. And System will frreze and then I have to reset. Error always 101...

The weird thing is at x45, by just raising vcore 0.02 helped to eliminate 101 and System passed two runs two tests.
X46 even raising + 0.045 vcore did not help. System would crash first test second run. System freezed and Error always 101.

So my Error with x46 is always 101 now. Needs further testing. mad.gif
If someone has an Idea to stabilize x264 benchmark with x46 enlighten me..smile.gif


LEAVE UNCORE DOWN TILL CORE IS STABLE. Is this with a 4670k or 4770k?

Let x264 do all 4 runs. Once it successfully passes run XTU bench for further fine tuning. It'll drop cores if it's still not stable and this can be good for fine tuning VRIN. After that try an 9hr pass with XTU stress. If it passes then the core is rock solid (IMO - rock solid for every day/gaming but it'll fail P95) and move onto the next core multi.

Adjust core/vrin like i mentioned in the previous post and you'll find out if you can get the next multi up stable. There's only two things that'll put an end to clocking it, temp's and voltage. Obviously temp can be reduced with better cooling, water, delid etc but if you have good temps and hit whatever voltage you deem to be maximum then thats the end of it.
Edited by Doug2507 - 10/4/13 at 3:57pm
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Originally Posted by Cyro999 View Post

Intriguing, ty

Thinking about it, it could be both but not specific to one or the other...? Guess it would be simple enough to check. Leave everything on default which will be 100% stable on anything, throw one up/down till unstable, record voltage/BSOD, do the same with the other, record voltage/BSOD, throw them both off, check BSOD. Easy enough to do with core/vrin as well. If someone's stuck for something to do...redface.gif

Anyway, todays effort....

The good - 5.0ghz, x264 & 9hr 15min XTU stable. biggrin.gif

The bad - One dead OCZ Vector sys. drive with all screenshots on it. mad.gif Ironically it died when i was trying to boot back in to copy all software to an external HDD. It was throwing up errors galore so was going to get a fresh install. One reboot too late!

Rig's now undergoing surgery to get some H2O in it. Should have a Sammy Pro turning up tomorrow to replace the Vector and should have it back up and running tomorrow night. smile.gif

*EDIT - 101, it is related to BOTH vring & vrin but not specific to either. Once i hit 5.0 stable i started to bring uncore up from x34@1.15v. I couldn't get anything stable all the way up to 1.4vring with 101's the whole way. x264 would fail on 1st run, second pass every time..... miffed. Unless my failing SSD had anything to do with it. Must......test....more!!biggrin.gif
Edited by Doug2507 - 10/4/13 at 4:07pm
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Originally Posted by Jason7890 View Post

Finally someone using Fritz Chess.Hows its reliability for you?Are you stble in day to day gaming and tyhe like?

Try upping VRIN and see if you can lower vcore as you go.smile.gif

I first post/boot. Open a browser. Run Fritz 10x. Open Steam. Run Borderlands 2. Run Battlefield 3. Then run BF 3 while running Borderlands 2 in the background. I record my screen for 10 mins using Camtasia then encode/render it. At this voltage I'm not gonna Linpack stress test. No way--I previously had. I downloaded the Intel XTU and I'll add that in.

Day to day I've been good for like a week. But I have absolutely no idea what any of these settings do. I'm grasping at straws here.

I watched this video and I'm gonna try his method. Delidding tomorrow or Sunday then it's : Do or die. 4.6 GHz or bust.

Edit @ Darkwizzie: Yeah but, no bones about it. Coming from a Q6600 I ran at 1.905 GHz (until it started to degrade) I can't complain. This 4670k is miles faster. A 4.5 4670k is no slouch but, I may start saving up for a 4770k. If I kill this 4670 delidding I'll buy 1 outright. I'm just looking for enough speed to last me ~3 years. I'm not done...not by a longshot--I'll go ultra water if I have to.
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At 46x/44x i'm rock solid stable with 1.24 ring. At 47x/44x with 1.24 ring and a large vcore+vrin step i see instability very quickly (101's) that is gone with 1.3 ring.

Explain

I'm not saying i'm right, the only people i've seen without issues at high core clocks though were using like 1.3 ring, and i think it might be neccesary to raise it when pushing vcore and/or VRIN up

 

 

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Originally Posted by byardz View Post

101 is Vring.

To confirm this, lower your uncore voltage to a really low level and run a stress test.

You will see 101 pop everytime.

 

And yet, I was at stock ring bus with 1.3v Vring. Still got 101. Tries 1.25v, still 101.

Explain.

 

Since we have people with different answers either somebody is seriously wrong in their testing or chips are giving out different bsods from chip to chip.

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I first post/boot. Open a browser. Run Fritz 10x. Open Steam. Run Borderlands 2. Run Battlefield 3. Then run BF 3 while running Borderlands 2 in the background. I record my screen for 10 mins using Camtasia then encode/render it. At this voltage I'm not gonna Linpack stress test. No way--I previously had. I downloaded the Intel XTU and I'll add that in.

Day to day I've been good for like a week. But I have absolutely no idea what any of these settings do. I'm grasping at straws here.

I watched this
video and I'm gonna try his method. Delidding tomorrow or Sunday then it's : Do or die. 4.6 GHz or bust.

Edit @ Darkwizzie: Yeah but, no bones about it. Coming from a Q6600 I ran at 1.905 GHz (until it started to degrade) I can't complain. This 4670k is miles faster. A 4.5 4670k is no slouch but, I may start saving up for a 4770k. If I kill this 4670 delidding I'll buy 1 outright. I'm just looking for enough speed to last me ~3 years. I'm not done...not by a longshot--I'll go ultra water if I have to.

If you're that much into performance, if you can still exchange the chip you might have better results.

 

 

In related news, I just passed 9 hours of Stockfish on my new settings! w00t!


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And yet, I was at stock ring bus with 1.3v Vring. Still got 101. Tries 1.25v, still 101.
Explain.

Since we have people with different answers either somebody is seriously wrong in their testing or chips are giving out different bsods from chip to chip.

Haswell is a particular mistress with quad-polar tendencies.
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