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Quick question to you guys that might be a bit more familiar. I just put together my new build last week, and I've started tinkering with my clocks now that I got all my water cooling gear in. I have one core that's on average usually around 8-10 degrees cooler under load than the rest seems to be regardless of clock speed. The other 3 are usually within around 3 degrees of each other. Idle they all hover around the same temps. Obviously there will be variances, but that one core just seems odd to me. I've been pretty out of the loop with the recent chips (my last was a Core 2 Quad) so this may not be completely out of the ordinary.

Chip is delidded, with Liquid Pro applied to it. I was pretty careful to evenly apply pressure with the CPU block. Everything seems to be working fine. Just curious if I should worry much about it right now.

Nothing out of the ordinary. Once you start getting 15C difference though, call the cops. :D

 

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@Menphisto
I thought I would get 4,6 with 1,29 fully stable. But now, I am not even sure if I will get 4,6 with 1,3 stable.
For 4,5 I would need 1,24, Prime 27.9 and x264 stable.
So 4,7 will probably need between 1,37-1,4 if ever possible....mad.gif Voltage wall

What is your Vccin?

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4.6 GHZ
1,92 Vrin
1,18 Vring x 39
1,3 Vcore
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Holy crap just tested New BIOS ,but its a Bad BIOS really Bad no New features but 2 fails..first, my h80i doesnt work right , second the CPU got up to 20 MHz jumps...*** ...i stay with my old BIOS only up to 0,2 MHz jumps xD ....i should have follow the sentence : Never touch a running system biggrin.gif
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http://gyazo.com/440291bbd458e45ce02a1d47fc7fd49d.png
4.5 GHZ
1,80 Vrin
1,15 Vring x 42
1,24 Vcore
temp? rolleyes.gif
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http://gyazo.com/440291bbd458e45ce02a1d47fc7fd49d.png
4.5 GHZ
1,80 Vrin
1,15 Vring x 42
1,24 Vcore
temp? rolleyes.gif

 

So uh, which post do I use when I enter your results? This one?

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I tried using +0.05, 0.1, 0.135v offsets for SA/Io voltages to see if anything could ward off crashes, obviously not.

Although can't get my hands on data showing me how long each settings took on average to crash. It's hard because it's not very unstable anymore, it takes a long time to do all this now.

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I'm hitting pretty hard instability going to 4.8 ht off, is a shame because temps are good. I mean, 4.7 stable @1.32 (and can cinebench once on a lot lot less with some luck) but 0x0101 so fast with 48x that i cant get through any real load. Vcore doesn't seem to fix it so i'm not sure what approach to take
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Have you tried bumping up vccin? I'm now 2.125v vccin for 5.0ghz stable (1.35vcore). 4.9ghz only required 1.9v vccin (1.29vcore).

Have you tried playing about with offset on the core/ring instead of full set values?

On a side note, x264 isn't 100% rock solid for me. I can put uncore up to x48 (didn't go any further) and pass x264 all day long. When i ran xtu stress it failed quite rapidly all the way down to x45. (124's). I'll probably have a play about with vcore to see if i can bump it up again once this x45 stress has finished.
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On my Asus Hero it's under CPU Power Management > CPU Integrated VR Power Management Efficiency. Options are: Auto, High Performance, Balanced.


Just found out what FIVR efficiency is on gigabyte boards, its called "CPU Vrin Protection" ranged from 150 - 500mv. Judging by the article 500mv is being least efficient. Source: http://nl.hardware.info/reviews/4824/5/workshop-haswell-overklokken-gratis-snelheidswinst!-basisinstellingen

I took stable overclock and changed Vrin protection from auto to 500mv and bsod in 5 minutes. Its definitely doing something! So there gigabyte owners, another setting to play with.
Edited by t0tum - 10/9/13 at 1:57pm
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I've run into a problem while overclocking my 4770k. I'm trying 4.5GHz at everything from 1.22 to 1.275v, and the stability doesn't change at all. It passes IBT at about 1.23v, and I can run prime95 blend for 15+ min (sometimes it bluescreens after 15min, sometimes after 3h) at 1.24v, and I've tried everything I can think of. Uncore is at 4.1GHz and I've tried everything from 1.20 to 1.275 for the testing.

While my temps aren't great when the prime95 blend-test is running small FFTs (around 90c, even though I have a custom water loop. I'm going to delid soon, but I doubt it's going to help the stability), I've seen it crash on the large-FFTs phase as well when it's around 65-70c.

I'm guessing that it has something to do with the memory, but I've tried running the memory at both 1866MHz (it's rated for 1866MHz) and 1600MHz at 1.5v (rated voltage), 1.55v and auto. I've also tried VCCINs from 1.7 to 1.85v.

CPU LLC is level 8 (100%) and C-states are disabled.
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