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You have to re-check this one. Yes you will damage the chip with 1.5v on air.
Are you cooking on it or what? It is highly recommended that you check what temperature you are at in these circumstances.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Alxx View Post

When you have delidded CPU and watercooling, 1.5v vcore may shortly be ok for benchmarks etc. if temps are allright.
But 24/7 probably way too much.

As Alxx said, 1.5v vcore is fine for high end air testing with nonsynthetics. gaming/etc will be fine on 1.5v. The worries of degradation begins though, but that applies no matter what cooling solution you have.

 

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Error


Error code is 114 iirc.

I finally managed to run x264 without crashes, currently running XTU (almost 2 hours in), temps in the mid 70's. The settings I am now using are

Multi 46
Vcore 1.305
Vrin 1.9
Uncore 34
Uncore vring 1.15
Xmp off
LLC extreme.

So far so good, it looks like AIDA64 is not stressing enough the CPU, I could run it with 1.245 vcore and 1.85 vrin for 4 hours.

Once I'm done with the test I will try for 47 multi. I don't want to go higher than 1.35 vcore. If I can stabilize 47 multi, great, if not, I'm more than happy with 46 biggrin.gif

Probably 124.

When you think you've hit your final or close to final settings please submit your settings again (you can copy and paste the form on front page for convinience).

 

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I have x264_Benchmark_HD_v5.0.1 (with AviSynth 2.5.8) and can only run it in 32 bit mode (In Windows 8).
If I try 64 bit mode, the benchmark runs "AviSynth64 Installer v3" with error "Access is denied."

Is there something special that I have to do, to get x64 running?

That's odd, I'm on 64bit and I never had the issue.

I'm using x264 for stressing not benching so I'm not even sure if that matters should I run into that problem.

 

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Uff. I'm not sure that I will have the time to try that procedure. Is 64bit version much faster then 32bit? (I get around 16.20 fps with 32 bit in pass 2 on my 4670K @ 4500 core, 4300 cache). Which version do you guys use?

Version 5.0.1

 

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Got this baby (4670k) today. Running it on a GA-Z87X-OC. Did 4.5Ghz. Passed 10 runs of Intel IBT.

CPU freq is 4.5ghz and uncore is 4.4ghz.

Ran Cinebench, Single core - 1.97, multicore - 7.54
Load temp IBT - 87c max, CB - 67c max

This was achieved using
vcore - 1.25v
vrin - 1.9v
v ring bus - 1.2v
LCC - Extreme
Phase - Extreme

Want to shave off 5c atleast. Time to tweak voltages by dialing back 10mv?

Well, what temps are we talking about here? Off IBT your temps will be just fine for 24/7 use.

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Hello, I would like to join the club.
The info on this pages was quite helpful, so Wiz, below is the data for the stats.

Username: tomlev5
CPU Model: 4670K
Core Multiplier: 45
CPU VID: 1.340
Vcore: 1.360
Uncore Multiplier: 43
Uncore Voltage: 1.260
Cooling Solution: Noctua U14S
Stability Test: AIDA64 11 hours, XTU 8 hours, x264 bench, Prime95 v28.1 blend with 2 torture tests
Batch Number: L310B515
Ram Speed: overclocked to 2133 CL10 @ 1.65 V (XMP is 1866 CL10 @ 1.5 V)
MAX temps: AIDA64 81°C, XTU 77°C, x264 7?°C, 2 core Prime95 v28.1 88°C
Other voltages: are all left on Auto (I had no success with lowering VCore with manual voltages, i guess that Z87-A set them just right: VCCIN around 1.82, VCCSA 0.85)


My last stability test "prime95 v28.1 on 2 cores" is the strangest (I didn't notice anyone else using it this way). I was afraid to run v28.1 on 4 cores at that voltage because of degradation, so I used only 2 cores and could pretty quickly find the right amount of VCore for the job. After I was v28.1 blend stable I tried other test - everything else passed on 4 cores without a single bsod (x264, XTU, AIDA64).
Try v28.1 at least on 1 core. Perhaps you will find some instability that is bugging you the whole time ...
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Hello, I would like to join the club.
The info on this pages was quite helpful, so Wiz, below is the data for the stats.

Username: tomlev5
CPU Model: 4670K
Core Multiplier: 45
CPU VID: 1.340
Vcore: 1.360
Uncore Multiplier: 43
Uncore Voltage: 1.260
Cooling Solution: Noctua U14S
Stability Test: AIDA64 11 hours, XTU 8 hours, x264 bench, Prime95 v28.1 blend with 2 torture tests
Batch Number: L310B515
Ram Speed: overclocked to 2133 CL10 @ 1.65 V (XMP is 1866 CL10 @ 1.5 V)
MAX temps: AIDA64 81°C, XTU 77°C, x264 7?°C, 2 core Prime95 v28.1 88°C
Other voltages: are all left on Auto (I had no success with lowering VCore with manual voltages, i guess that Z87-A set them just right: VCCIN around 1.82, VCCSA 0.85)


My last stability test "prime95 v28.1 on 2 cores" is the strangest (I didn't notice anyone else using it this way). I was afraid to run v28.1 on 4 cores at that voltage because of degradation, so I used only 2 cores and could pretty quickly find the right amount of VCore for the job. After I was v28.1 blend stable I tried other test - everything else passed on 4 cores without a single bsod (x264, XTU, AIDA64).
Try v28.1 at least on 1 core. Perhaps you will find some instability that is bugging you the whole time ...

I've charted your data. :thumb:

 

If anybody found a way to loop x264benchmark, please let us know... or if anybody is capable of writing a program that makes it possible. Because as it stands, 264 not looping is my largest issue with the program.

 

28.1 is a hard version of Prime. 1.36 Vcore won't degrade.

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As Alxx said, 1.5v vcore is fine for high end air testing with nonsynthetics. gaming/etc will be fine on 1.5v. The worries of degradation begins though, but that applies no matter what cooling solution you have.

1.5v on air undelidded?
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1.5v on air undelidded?

Yup, and I tested it myself.

Yeah, you're pushing it on high end air, and if you have crappy ambients that could be problematic as well. (I had a few people report high temps, and then I find out their ambient temp is 100F. How do YOU survive under 100F let alone your computer at that rate? Lol.)

 

I'm not recommending 1.5v on air though, I'm just saying you could run it without the CPU going kaput. The issue is, if you're doing 1.5v and you are up there in hardcoreness, why didn't you get a good liquid cooling solution in the first place? That would've made more sense.

 

I am ignoring degradation and only talking about temps because the specific example was on air, so only temps. And in terms of temps, all you have to do is stay under 95C under real world load to survive. I had a few giggles running 1.5v+ but yeah, people started calling me insane.

 

BUT,

One has to remember: If you've hit the voltage wall as you probably have if you need to go that high on voltage, stability might be hard to come by no matter the voltage.


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How many hours of XTU are enough? Currently running for 5 hours without problems, is it enough?
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Got this baby (4670k) today. Running it on a GA-Z87X-OC. Did 4.5Ghz.
Passed 10 runs of Intel IBT.
CPU freq is 4.5ghz and uncore is 4.4ghz.
Ran Cinebench, Single core - 1.97, multicore - 7.54
Load temp IBT - 87c max, CB - 67c max
This was achieved using
Vcore - 1.25v
vrin - 1.9v
v ring bus - 1.2v
LCC - Extreme
Phase - Extreme
Want to shave off 5c atleast. Time to tweak voltages by dialing back 10mv?
Well, what temps are we talking about here? Off IBT your temps will be just fine for 24/7 use.

87c was the max on 3 cores in IBT. 67c was the max for cinebench. I ran crysis 3 for a good 20mins, 71c max. I would like slightly lower temps, gonna shave off some volts, or try 4.6ghz.
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87c was the max on 3 cores in IBT. 67c was the max for cinebench. I ran crysis 3 for a good 20mins, 71c max. I would like slightly lower temps, gonna shave off some volts, or try 4.6ghz.

Well if you can shave off a bit more Vcore maybe you can hit 4.6 without issues.

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Sennheiser HD 800 2xKrk Rokit 6 G2 Blue Yeti (Grey) Rode PSA-1 Arm 
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Samsung 950 Pro 512gb (Undelwalt) WD Red 2tb (Pack Yak II) Seagate Expansion Drive 5tb (Phoenix Down II) 3x560mm HardwareLabs Nemesis GTX 
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XPSC Raystorm Pro Watercool Heatkiller 1080ti Full Cover Waterblock EK XTOP Revo Dual D5 (Serial, PWM, v4) EK ZMT (1/2 - 3/4 ID OD) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
14xEK ACF (Compression Fittings) EK x4 250 (v2) Distilled Water + PT Nuke (Copper Sulphate) 24x140mm Silent Wings 3 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro 64bit Catleap 27 Inch 2560x1440 IPS 60hz Display Coolermaster Storm Trigger (Brown Switches) EVGA P2 1000w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Air 540 Logitech G Pro Tek Syndicate "Raze the World" Desk Mat O2 + Odac by Mayflower Electronics (Rev A) 
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Sennheiser HD 800 2xKrk Rokit 6 G2 Blue Yeti (Grey) Rode PSA-1 Arm 
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Aquaero 6 LT + Aluminum Heatsink 
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i5 6600k Delid @ 4.848/4.848 Asus z170 Hero MSI GTX 980ti @ 1499/4082 1.25v/134% Power 2 x 8gb Gskills Ripjaws V 3131 16-16-16-32 
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After reading people results something is certain that haswell is a big loterry chip.Someone do 46x-48x with 1.2 vcore full stable on the other hand some people have to give +0.1 vcore for making 4.4 to 4.5 (+0.1 vcore for 100mhz isn't logical).Other side how can you feel yourself successful after seing people 46x/48x with 1.2 vcore while you are on 45x with 1.35 vcore.
Simply if you have good chip you are a automatically good overcloker:) I know that in the past motherboard quality and ram timings/voltages are the tricky things for ocing but now i see there isn't much differences on them.Gigabyte Z87-HD3 is even enough for ocing no need to pay for asus rog series.Also DDR3 is a something like one brand fabrication product all of them same not more tweakable.

I see the key is chip ok everytime there was a good and bad chips but if we talking about haswell it has a very big gap.If you have bad one i offer that don't spend time.It makes you sad.If you will make a new pc follow the good batch numbers and try to get it.It will give you higher chance to be happy.

Intel make k series for overclokers and wants extra $ but don't give people the same potential product.This is the reason of my sadness.
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Lol, I was reading a topic in a Maplestory forum about lag while in towns, people are talking about CPUs. Oh man.

 

My cpu is 2.4ghz, if it's 2.0ghz your toast, you guys are so ignorant! you need more ghz!111

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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
7600k @ 5.197/1.392 1.392v z170 Asus Hero EVGA 1080ti SC Black (2100/6250) x2 8gb GSkill Trident Z 3600 @ 3804 15-15-15-32-2T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 950 Pro 512gb (Undelwalt) WD Red 2tb (Pack Yak II) Seagate Expansion Drive 5tb (Phoenix Down II) 3x560mm HardwareLabs Nemesis GTX 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XPSC Raystorm Pro Watercool Heatkiller 1080ti Full Cover Waterblock EK XTOP Revo Dual D5 (Serial, PWM, v4) EK ZMT (1/2 - 3/4 ID OD) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
14xEK ACF (Compression Fittings) EK x4 250 (v2) Distilled Water + PT Nuke (Copper Sulphate) 24x140mm Silent Wings 3 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro 64bit Catleap 27 Inch 2560x1440 IPS 60hz Display Coolermaster Storm Trigger (Brown Switches) EVGA P2 1000w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Air 540 Logitech G Pro Tek Syndicate "Raze the World" Desk Mat O2 + Odac by Mayflower Electronics (Rev A) 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Sennheiser HD 800 2xKrk Rokit 6 G2 Blue Yeti (Grey) Rode PSA-1 Arm 
Other
Aquaero 6 LT + Aluminum Heatsink 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 6600k Delid @ 4.848/4.848 Asus z170 Hero MSI GTX 980ti @ 1499/4082 1.25v/134% Power 2 x 8gb Gskills Ripjaws V 3131 16-16-16-32 
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Samsung Pro Series 840 256gb (Celapaleis) 1 TB Samsung Drive (Pack Yak) Samsung Pro Series 850 256gb (Celapaleis Reprise) Phoenix Down (External Backup) 
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Noctua D14 Kraken x61 Push-Pull for GPU Windows 10 Pro Catleap 2560x1440 @ 60hz 
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CM Storm Trigger Brown Switches EVGA Supernova 1000w P2 Corsair 540 Air Razer Abyssus 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Steelseries QcK Mini Blue Yeti Microphone Objective Dac + Amp Sescom AB Switch 
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Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
7600k @ 5.197/1.392 1.392v z170 Asus Hero EVGA 1080ti SC Black (2100/6250) x2 8gb GSkill Trident Z 3600 @ 3804 15-15-15-32-2T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 950 Pro 512gb (Undelwalt) WD Red 2tb (Pack Yak II) Seagate Expansion Drive 5tb (Phoenix Down II) 3x560mm HardwareLabs Nemesis GTX 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XPSC Raystorm Pro Watercool Heatkiller 1080ti Full Cover Waterblock EK XTOP Revo Dual D5 (Serial, PWM, v4) EK ZMT (1/2 - 3/4 ID OD) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
14xEK ACF (Compression Fittings) EK x4 250 (v2) Distilled Water + PT Nuke (Copper Sulphate) 24x140mm Silent Wings 3 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro 64bit Catleap 27 Inch 2560x1440 IPS 60hz Display Coolermaster Storm Trigger (Brown Switches) EVGA P2 1000w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Air 540 Logitech G Pro Tek Syndicate "Raze the World" Desk Mat O2 + Odac by Mayflower Electronics (Rev A) 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Sennheiser HD 800 2xKrk Rokit 6 G2 Blue Yeti (Grey) Rode PSA-1 Arm 
Other
Aquaero 6 LT + Aluminum Heatsink 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 6600k Delid @ 4.848/4.848 Asus z170 Hero MSI GTX 980ti @ 1499/4082 1.25v/134% Power 2 x 8gb Gskills Ripjaws V 3131 16-16-16-32 
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Samsung Pro Series 840 256gb (Celapaleis) 1 TB Samsung Drive (Pack Yak) Samsung Pro Series 850 256gb (Celapaleis Reprise) Phoenix Down (External Backup) 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Noctua D14 Kraken x61 Push-Pull for GPU Windows 10 Pro Catleap 2560x1440 @ 60hz 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Storm Trigger Brown Switches EVGA Supernova 1000w P2 Corsair 540 Air Razer Abyssus 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Steelseries QcK Mini Blue Yeti Microphone Objective Dac + Amp Sescom AB Switch 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
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