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I expected overclocks on overclock.net that weren't so ignorant about their chips.

Literally, I'm reading the info you guys post on what settings to use and its laughable how off you guys really are from knowing what settings to use to get Haswell stable properly.

To the fellow overclock.net users if you plan on using your PC daily and for more than just running benchmarks DO NOT RUN 1.65v RAM.

If I'm lying call Intel and speak to one of their engineers, like I have.

Also if anyone is claiming stability without a run of OCCT (AVX) enabled or Prime95 is incorrect.
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I expected overclocks on overclock.net that weren't so ignorant about their chips.

Literally, I'm reading the info you guys post on what settings to use and its laughable how off you guys really are from knowing what settings to use to get Haswell stable properly.

To the fellow overclock.net users if you plan on using your PC daily and for more than just running benchmarks DO NOT RUN 1.65v RAM.

If I'm lying call Intel and speak to one of their engineers, like I have.

Kk, I'm tired of you now.

I've spent a long time working on Haswell Overclocking. There is a reason why I have 390 pages of replies. There is a reason why I maintain a working statistic of settings, also looking for any cases of computer component death.

 

You can go resort to your crappy Intel numbers all day long. Fact of the matter is, many of us have been running 1.2v+ Vcore and 1.55v+ Ram voltage. And this applies not just for Haswell, but Ivy and Sandy where people have been doing it for a long time. Your argument makes no logical sense. You appeal to authority without evidence. (Argument from authority fallacy)

 

When presented with direct evidence you are wrong (tons of people running 'retarded voltages' long term without reports of death), you resort back to saying it's retarded, look at what Intel said. The evidence that others have run this is undeniable. Your only other possibility is to either a) Accuse all those other members of lying, saying they are all OK when in fact their computer blew up or b) all the other members are so clueless they either thought they entered 1.55v+ ram voltage and didn't or they thought their computers still work when in fact it blew up.

 

Do you see where this leave you?

 

I don't think you're purposefully lying to us. I'm not cynical like you. I just think you're genuinely mistaken. Now, please take your stuff elsewhere, not on my thread. I want to focus on data that is backed up by tests, not hearsay. I don't need a lecture from you.


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0_o bro, your guide is missing a lot of info.

Check this, http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Haswell_OC_Guide/4.html

For tips.

Also, I'm just trying to save people $ and time from following values that really shouldn't be ran 24/7.

Adaptive voltages may actually be harming the chips when the undervolt during small usage, especially when Vccin is higher since exceeding a .6 gap causes damage.

But I'm lying, none of this is true even though the people who made the chips said it is.

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0_o bro, your guide is missing a lot of info.

Check this, http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Haswell_OC_Guide/4.html

For tips.

Also, I'm just trying to save people $ and time from following values that really shouldn't be ran 24/7.

Adaptive voltages may actually be harming the chips when the undervolt during small usage, especially when Vccin is higher since exceeding a .6 gap causes damage.

But I'm lying, none of this is true even though the people who made the chips said it is.

I've read that guide, I've read multiple guides.

I already told you, I think you are simply mistaken. If you want to exaggerate that and make it seem like I am accusing you of being a big fat liar, go ahead.

 

Again, please leave my thread.

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How many hours of XTU are enough? Currently running for 5 hours without problems, is it enough?

Run for 9hrs as i mentioned in PM. It usually fails at two points, one within 2hrs and the other around the 8hr mark.
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0_o bro, your guide is missing a lot of info.

Check this, http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Haswell_OC_Guide/4.html

For tips.

Also, I'm just trying to save people $ and time from following values that really shouldn't be ran 24/7.

Adaptive voltages may actually be harming the chips when the undervolt during small usage, especially when Vccin is higher since exceeding a .6 gap causes damage.

But I'm lying, none of this is true even though the people who made the chips said it is.


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Haswell_OC_Guide/7.html

Wow, really? You're actually suggesting TPU's Haswell OC guide? That damn guide is an absolute joke. Second paragraph

"Secondly, since most of us will be using a discrete GPU, disabling the onboard GPU, if your BIOS allows it, is another big exercise in heat control. Having the iGPU disabled prior to installing the OS can lead to temperature reductions of up to 30°C over having it enabled for even only Intel QuickSync usage, so you definitely want to disable it to get the most out of the CPU."

You're actually going to listen to a guide that suggests this? rolleyes.gif
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http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Haswell_OC_Guide/7.html

Wow, really? You're actually suggesting TPU's Haswell OC guide? That damn guide is an absolute joke. Second paragraph

"Secondly, since most of us will be using a discrete GPU, disabling the onboard GPU, if your BIOS allows it, is another big exercise in heat control. Having the iGPU disabled prior to installing the OS can lead to temperature reductions of up to 30°C over having it enabled for even only Intel QuickSync usage, so you definitely want to disable it to get the most out of the CPU."

You're actually going to listen to a guide that suggests this? rolleyes.gif

Why would you not disable the iGPU if you have a discrete one?
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4.6Ghz wasn't viable, with the volt shave, but 4.5Ghz is still good to go.

VCore - 1.235v
VRIN - 1.180v
VCCIN - 1.880v
LLC - Extreme

7 degrees shaved. Going to try dropping the volts more.
Before: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
After: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Well, I'll chart your results right now. Have Hwinfo show the Vcore reading next time please (if it's on there, typically you have scroll down a lil bit.) Batch number and ram settings?

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Run for 9hrs as i mentioned in PM. It usually fails at two points, one within 2hrs and the other around the 8hr mark.

BTW, how intensive is XTU compared to x264 or 27.9 prime? Is it hotter? Just more intensive? Synthetic?

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by steven88 View Post


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Haswell_OC_Guide/7.html

Wow, really? You're actually suggesting TPU's Haswell OC guide? That damn guide is an absolute joke. Second paragraph

"Secondly, since most of us will be using a discrete GPU, disabling the onboard GPU, if your BIOS allows it, is another big exercise in heat control. Having the iGPU disabled prior to installing the OS can lead to temperature reductions of up to 30°C over having it enabled for even only Intel QuickSync usage, so you definitely want to disable it to get the most out of the CPU."

You're actually going to listen to a guide that suggests this? rolleyes.gif

Yeah well, if we keep quoting him he'll want to reply and I don't want that so... party.gif 

If you guys want the conversation feel free to PM each other.


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From my testing, the XTU stress test is less intensive (needs less volts) that Prime 27.9, but the XTU benchmark seems to be about the same as Prime.
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From my testing, the XTU stress test is less intensive (needs less volts) that Prime 27.9, but the XTU benchmark seems to be about the same as Prime.

That's ironic. :applaud:

What about Prime/XTU compared to x264? I'm still on non-synthetics.

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CM Storm Trigger Brown Switches EVGA Supernova 1000w P2 Corsair 540 Air Razer Abyssus 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Steelseries QcK Mini Blue Yeti Microphone Objective Dac + Amp Sescom AB Switch 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
AudioOther
Logitech c920 Webcam NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller 
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Undelwalt (2017)
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Celapaleis (2013)
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
7600k @ 5.197/1.392 1.392v z170 Asus Hero EVGA 1080ti SC Black (2100/6250) x2 8gb GSkill Trident Z 3600 @ 3804 15-15-15-32-2T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 950 Pro 512gb (Undelwalt) WD Red 2tb (Pack Yak II) Seagate Expansion Drive 5tb (Phoenix Down II) 3x560mm HardwareLabs Nemesis GTX 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XPSC Raystorm Pro Watercool Heatkiller 1080ti Full Cover Waterblock EK XTOP Revo Dual D5 (Serial, PWM, v4) EK ZMT (1/2 - 3/4 ID OD) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
14xEK ACF (Compression Fittings) EK x4 250 (v2) Distilled Water + PT Nuke (Copper Sulphate) 24x140mm Silent Wings 3 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro 64bit Catleap 27 Inch 2560x1440 IPS 60hz Display Coolermaster Storm Trigger (Brown Switches) EVGA P2 1000w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Air 540 Logitech G Pro Tek Syndicate "Raze the World" Desk Mat O2 + Odac by Mayflower Electronics (Rev A) 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Sennheiser HD 800 2xKrk Rokit 6 G2 Blue Yeti (Grey) Rode PSA-1 Arm 
Other
Aquaero 6 LT + Aluminum Heatsink 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 6600k Delid @ 4.848/4.848 Asus z170 Hero MSI GTX 980ti @ 1499/4082 1.25v/134% Power 2 x 8gb Gskills Ripjaws V 3131 16-16-16-32 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung Pro Series 840 256gb (Celapaleis) 1 TB Samsung Drive (Pack Yak) Samsung Pro Series 850 256gb (Celapaleis Reprise) Phoenix Down (External Backup) 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Noctua D14 Kraken x61 Push-Pull for GPU Windows 10 Pro Catleap 2560x1440 @ 60hz 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Storm Trigger Brown Switches EVGA Supernova 1000w P2 Corsair 540 Air Razer Abyssus 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Steelseries QcK Mini Blue Yeti Microphone Objective Dac + Amp Sescom AB Switch 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
AudioOther
Logitech c920 Webcam NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller 
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