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Well, I'll chart your results right now. Have Hwinfo show the Vcore reading next time please (if it's on there, typically you have scroll down a lil bit.) Batch number and ram settings?

Here you go:


And in the 2nd picture, I did outline my vcore and frequency and uncore frequency :|

Oh and if its essential, my base clock was at 99.76mhz earlier when set to 100mhz in bios. Then I set it to 100.20 in bios, it shows up as 100.16 everywhere else.

Probably a 2400mhz ram kit will be my next upgrade or a beefier gpu thumb.gif
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That's ironic. applaud.gif
What about Prime/XTU compared to x264? I'm still on non-synthetics.

It may be that they are equally intensive, just that the benchmark finds errors faster. I never ran the stress test for more than 8 hours or so. So it may just be quicker.
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Here you go:


And in the 2nd picture, I did outline my vcore and frequency and uncore frequency :|

Oh and if its essential, my base clock was at 99.76mhz earlier when set to 100mhz in bios. Then I set it to 100.20 in bios, it shows up as 100.16 everywhere else.

Probably a 2400mhz ram kit will be my next upgrade or a beefier gpu thumb.gif

You outlined CPU VID. There is literally a reading on Hwinfo called "CPU Vcore".

The reason is because Hwinfo and Hwmonitor measures an increase in Vcore from what you actually set in the BIOS when under load. For example, we all know stressing with synthetics on adaptive is a bad idea, because you get more voltage than you set. So in that case you'd see, CPU VID: 1.235 CPU Vcore: 1.45v. But even in non-synthetics there is often a small voltage bump from what you set measured by HwInfo. Until I can rule out for sure that this is due to a bogus reading, I'm keeping tabs on that measurement.

 

Hwinfo seems to behave a little differently across different computers sometimes, so if you really don't have that or something else is going on, that would be interesting to note as well.

 

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It may be that they are equally intensive, just that the benchmark finds errors faster. I never ran the stress test for more than 8 hours or so. So it may just be quicker.
Suppose so. I guess when I mean 'intensive' I mean, 'finds errors faster'.
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Replacement 4670K seems stable enough. Hero is giving it 1.21V @ default/stock settings and I'm loading @ 65C in AIDA64, 3DMark, and BF4's beta. Seem ok?

I see overclock3d hit 80C w/ an extra Ghz and 1.276V on an H100i, so I'm thinking everything's ok and I just need to start reading and tweaking.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/intel_4670k_i5_haswell_review_overclocking/2

Where's the best place to start learning all of Haswell's options?
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Replacement 4670K seems stable enough. Hero is giving it 1.21V @ default/stock settings and I'm loading @ 65C in AIDA64, 3DMark, and BF4's beta. Seem ok?

I see overclock3d hit 80C w/ an extra Ghz and 1.276V on an H100i, so I'm thinking everything's ok and I just need to start reading and tweaking.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/intel_4670k_i5_haswell_review_overclocking/2

Where's the best place to start learning all of Haswell's options?

Mostly you just have Vccin (input voltage), Vcore, Vring (And Core/Uncore multiplier).  IoD/IoA/SA voltages are less used and tested. I already covered those in my guide. Anything in particular you're looking at?

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It seems to be at 1.248v (nearly 1.25v). Does that mean when I had VID at 1.25v this reading was higher?

Does vcore represent the actual voltage being delivered to the CPU?
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Replacement 4670K seems stable enough. Hero is giving it 1.21V @ default/stock settings and I'm loading @ 65C in AIDA64, 3DMark, and BF4's beta. Seem ok?


I see overclock3d hit 80C w/ an extra Ghz and 1.276V on an H100i, so I'm thinking everything's ok and I just need to start reading and tweaking.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/intel_4670k_i5_haswell_review_overclocking/2


Where's the best place to start learning all of Haswell's options?
Mostly you just have Vccin (input voltage), Vcore, Vring (And Core/Uncore multiplier).  IoD/IoA/SA voltages are less used and tested. I already covered those in my guide. Anything in particular you're looking at?

Is your guide the original post? I'll take a look. Not really looking @ anything specific. I haven't touched a BIOS since the P7P55D-E Pro and an i5 760...and that was nowhere near as daunting as the Hero's BIOS. I checked the ROG guide and there's just a ton of settings. They probably don't matter either, haha. At least for me. I'm content w/ little effort, acceptable OC. I don't need to spend days on that last 100 Mhz.
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It seems to be at 1.248v (nearly 1.25v). Does that mean when I had VID at 1.25v this reading was higher?

Does vcore represent the actual voltage being delivered to the CPU?

It's supposed to be. For example we know if we set adaptive voltage, the voltage is very low when CPU is not under load, which is how it's supposed to be. But does the reading represent the exact voltage delivered to the CPU or just a semi-close ballpark figure? I don't know.

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Is your guide the original post? I'll take a look. Not really looking @ anything specific. 
Yup. 

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Too much voltage on the ram above the 1.5 +5% = eventual IMC burn out.

I'm not really interested in the who's got a bigger dixx but I'm interested where you got that besides the graph you listed earlier? I see you have few posts and fairly high rep count so can only assume you're fairly helpful but from the few posts I saw here, there really wasn't that much information?

I for example run @ 1.65v (though it's reported as 1.665v). This allows my RAM to be 2424MHz with tighter timings here and there. As my chip sucks in general this is what I've been concentrating on recently as it's IMC at least "appears" to be ok. I have thought about +1.7v, that's basically why I'm asking. Do you have any other "proof"?
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I'm not really interested in the who's got a bigger dixx but I'm interested where you got that besides the graph you listed earlier? I see you have few posts and fairly high rep count so can only assume you're fairly helpful but from the few posts I saw here, there really wasn't that much information?

I for example run @ 1.65v (though it's reported as 1.665v). This allows my RAM to be 2424MHz with tighter timings here and there. As my chip sucks in general this is what I've been concentrating on recently as it's IMC at least "appears" to be ok. I have thought about +1.7v, that's basically why I'm asking. Do you have any other "proof"?

We've already been over this and I've asked for more. All I got was Intel said this and that. With the info contradicted by people who actually bothered to overclock for extended periods of time. And not contradicted by one person, but by tons of people.

 

He was so hell bent on proving me wrong, if he had boatloads of evidence don't you figure he'd actually LIST them before posting 5 posts trying to disprove my guide? You know, instead of not even saying he has more evidence in attempts to sabatoge his own argument.

 

Is there a "send this conversation to PM" emoticon?
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Samsung Pro Series 840 256gb (Celapaleis) 1 TB Samsung Drive (Pack Yak) Samsung Pro Series 850 256gb (Celapaleis Reprise) Phoenix Down (External Backup) 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Noctua D14 Kraken x61 Push-Pull for GPU Windows 10 Pro Catleap 2560x1440 @ 60hz 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Storm Trigger Brown Switches EVGA Supernova 1000w P2 Corsair 540 Air Razer Abyssus 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Steelseries QcK Mini Blue Yeti Microphone Objective Dac + Amp Sescom AB Switch 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
AudioOther
Logitech c920 Webcam NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller 
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Undelwalt (2017)
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Celapaleis (2013)
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
7600k @ 5.197/1.392 1.392v z170 Asus Hero EVGA 1080ti SC Black (2100/6250) x2 8gb GSkill Trident Z 3600 @ 3804 15-15-15-32-2T 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
Samsung 950 Pro 512gb (Undelwalt) WD Red 2tb (Pack Yak II) Seagate Expansion Drive 5tb (Phoenix Down II) 3x560mm HardwareLabs Nemesis GTX 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XPSC Raystorm Pro Watercool Heatkiller 1080ti Full Cover Waterblock EK XTOP Revo Dual D5 (Serial, PWM, v4) EK ZMT (1/2 - 3/4 ID OD) 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
14xEK ACF (Compression Fittings) EK x4 250 (v2) Distilled Water + PT Nuke (Copper Sulphate) 24x140mm Silent Wings 3 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 10 Pro 64bit Catleap 27 Inch 2560x1440 IPS 60hz Display Coolermaster Storm Trigger (Brown Switches) EVGA P2 1000w 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Corsair Air 540 Logitech G Pro Tek Syndicate "Raze the World" Desk Mat O2 + Odac by Mayflower Electronics (Rev A) 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Sennheiser HD 800 2xKrk Rokit 6 G2 Blue Yeti (Grey) Rode PSA-1 Arm 
Other
Aquaero 6 LT + Aluminum Heatsink 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 6600k Delid @ 4.848/4.848 Asus z170 Hero MSI GTX 980ti @ 1499/4082 1.25v/134% Power 2 x 8gb Gskills Ripjaws V 3131 16-16-16-32 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung Pro Series 840 256gb (Celapaleis) 1 TB Samsung Drive (Pack Yak) Samsung Pro Series 850 256gb (Celapaleis Reprise) Phoenix Down (External Backup) 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Noctua D14 Kraken x61 Push-Pull for GPU Windows 10 Pro Catleap 2560x1440 @ 60hz 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
CM Storm Trigger Brown Switches EVGA Supernova 1000w P2 Corsair 540 Air Razer Abyssus 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Steelseries QcK Mini Blue Yeti Microphone Objective Dac + Amp Sescom AB Switch 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
AudioOther
Logitech c920 Webcam NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller 
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