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Where'd you get that idea? tongue.gif

Facts and evidence are overrated anyways. wackosmiley.gif 

 

Here's what happened:

You picked Intel as the one and only credible source for ram voltage safety, or as if all experts agree. You do this without any real evidence but "they said so". Somewhere here is a fallacy.

 

When I offer competing evidence, namingly Intel's bunk vcore recommendations, and the bazillion people running higher Vcore and/or Ram voltage without issue for prolonged periods of time, you literally have no refutation. This definitively proves you are wrong.

 

I have evidence. You don't.


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A question, what is the throttling temperature for haswell?

What should my thermal cut-off be for overheat protection?
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A question, what is the throttling temperature for haswell?

What should my thermal cut-off be for overheat protection?

I don't know the exact damage point as it may be a bit different for each chip however an 85c backdown point should serve well for everyday use.

Myself running an H80i on a delid 4770k 4.4ghz @ 1.37v prime95 numbers never break over 70c

my chip was a less amazing chip(thus the high voltage) but i plan to upgrade each generation of chip for the foreseeable future so even if it dies due to my high voltage oh well. either way this haswell rig is kicking my old amd fx 8 core performance 24/70. quite happy with my jump to the intel side.
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I don't know the exact damage point as it may be a bit different for each chip however an 85c backdown point should serve well for everyday use.

Myself running an H80i on a delid 4770k 4.4ghz @ 1.37v prime95 numbers never break over 70c

my chip was a less amazing chip(thus the high voltage) but i plan to upgrade each generation of chip for the foreseeable future so even if it dies due to my high voltage oh well. either way this haswell rig is kicking my old amd fx 8 core performance 24/70. quite happy with my jump to the intel side.

My non-delid 4670k can do 4.4ghz at ~1.24v with very low temps under a dusty 212+... Hmm, I have a better chip than I thought biggrin.gif


I plan on keeping the chip for a couple of years. Assuming temps are under control, would 1.25V-1.3V be safe for a 24/7 OC, or is it too early to know?
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My non-delid 4670k can do 4.4ghz at ~1.24v with very low temps under a dusty 212+... Hmm, I have a better chip than I thought biggrin.gif


I plan on keeping the chip for a couple of years. Assuming temps are under control, would 1.25V-1.3V be safe for a 24/7 OC, or is it too early to know?

You haven't exactly mentioned your temps for that 1.24V. But almost anything above 1.200V with a non-delidded chip would definitely cause spikes and temps wont be decent.
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A question, what is the throttling temperature for haswell?

What should my thermal cut-off be for overheat protection?

Haswell takes a big hit before throttling down, just like Ivy. I think its probably at 96-97C.
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I don't know the exact damage point as it may be a bit different for each chip however an 85c backdown point should serve well for everyday use.

Myself running an H80i on a delid 4770k 4.4ghz @ 1.37v prime95 numbers never break over 70c

my chip was a less amazing chip(thus the high voltage) but i plan to upgrade each generation of chip for the foreseeable future so even if it dies due to my high voltage oh well. either way this haswell rig is kicking my old amd fx 8 core performance 24/70. quite happy with my jump to the intel side.

You need that much vcore even with manually set VRIN and VRIN LLC etc?
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A question, what is the throttling temperature for haswell?

What should my thermal cut-off be for overheat protection?

Throttling occurs at 95-100C.

I've been there.

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Throttling occurs at 95-100C.
I've been there.

I agree with that range - I've been there a few times myself also....devil.gif
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Throttling starts at 100c+, i have been up to 99c and saw no throttling. At 99c point my cpu always crash, maybe cause of stock cooler, so i couldnt check at higher temps.

As for ram and 1.65v, up to 1.75v is said to be 100% safe. I cant talk about 1.75v but 1.65v is absolutely no problem at all. Running my 3770K for 16 months, 24/7 folding, both cpu and ram overclocked (4,7Ghz@1.33v and 2400 super tight timmings@1.665v) and i had no issues. So for me this 1.575v max dram makes no sense at all. At the moment i rum my ram also at 1.65v and as soon as i finish my cpu oc i ll find my max clocks up to 1.75v for also 24/7 use.

Ofc thats just me and what i have read from some very informed benchers/users/motherboard techs. Feel free to do whatever suits you, but please dont spread false info!
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Throttling starts at 100c+, i have been up to 99c and saw no throttling. At 99c point my cpu always crash, maybe cause of stock cooler, so i couldnt check at higher temps.

As for ram and 1.65v, up to 1.75v is said to be 100% safe. I cant talk about 1.75v but 1.65v is absolutely no problem at all. Running my 3770K for 16 months, 24/7 folding, both cpu and ram overclocked (4,7Ghz@1.33v and 2400 super tight timmings@1.665v) and i had no issues. So for me this 1.575v max dram makes no sense at all. At the moment i rum my ram also at 1.65v and as soon as i finish my cpu oc i ll find my max clocks up to 1.75v for also 24/7 use.

Ofc thats just me and what i have read from some very informed benchers/users/motherboard techs. Feel free to do whatever suits you, but please dont spread false info!

I thought past 100C due to throttling it stays at 100Cish?

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Corsair Air 540 Logitech G Pro Tek Syndicate "Raze the World" Desk Mat O2 + Odac by Mayflower Electronics (Rev A) 
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Sennheiser HD 800 2xKrk Rokit 6 G2 Blue Yeti (Grey) Rode PSA-1 Arm 
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Aquaero 6 LT + Aluminum Heatsink 
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i5 6600k Delid @ 4.848/4.848 Asus z170 Hero MSI GTX 980ti @ 1499/4082 1.25v/134% Power 2 x 8gb Gskills Ripjaws V 3131 16-16-16-32 
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Samsung Pro Series 840 256gb (Celapaleis) 1 TB Samsung Drive (Pack Yak) Samsung Pro Series 850 256gb (Celapaleis Reprise) Phoenix Down (External Backup) 
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Noctua D14 Kraken x61 Push-Pull for GPU Windows 10 Pro Catleap 2560x1440 @ 60hz 
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CM Storm Trigger Brown Switches EVGA Supernova 1000w P2 Corsair 540 Air Razer Abyssus 
Mouse PadAudioAudioAudio
Steelseries QcK Mini Blue Yeti Microphone Objective Dac + Amp Sescom AB Switch 
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Krk Rokit 6 G2 x2 Radioshack Ground Loop Isolator (For Rokits) Wooaudio Aluminum Headphone Stand Sennheiser HD 800 
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Logitech c920 Webcam NZXT Sentry Mix 2 Fan Controller 
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