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Welcome to the forum!

If you go into 'my profile' (top of the page in the header) then scroll down you'll find 'my rig'. On the right hand side there should be a clicky to create a new rig. Just fill in the details, you'll be able to search for products you use and match them.

Then go to 'edit signature' (same page you clicked 'create rig'). At the bottom of the pop up window there should be an option to show off stuff in your sig, select your rig.

It should then display in the bottom of your sig when you post. (just like mine and most others)

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Edited by Doug2507 - 10/18/13 at 4:25am
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could not live with the 102 when you had the same wink.gif


Improved my x264 a little to...
Argh...now i must burn my chip only for getting 704 or my live is useless biggrin.gif
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Welcome to the forum!

If you go into 'my profile' (top of the page in the header) then scroll down you'll find 'my rig'. On the right hand side there should be a clicky to create a new rig. Just fill in the details, you'll be able to search for products you use and match them.

Then go to 'edit signature' (same page you clicked 'create rig'). At the bottom of the pop up window there should be an option to show off stuff in your sig, select your rig.

It should then display in the bottom of your sig when you post. (just like mine and most others)

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Thanks. I added all the details!
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Hey friends, I just joined the site and I have to say this is an amazing thread. Really long, but I started from the beginning and learned a lot. I'm very new to PC building and I designed my current setup to be able to overclock. But the problem is I'm a total noob so I'm looking for some guidance. I watched JJ (from Asus) on YT last night and he was showing how to overclock using the Z87 chipset and i7 4770k. I watched both videos, the auto 4 way optimization way and the BIOS or UEFI way. I ended up trying the UEFI way following his instructions. Basically he clock his unit to 4.8 gHz right of the bat at some pretty low voltage settings. This is the first time I've learned anything about OCing so I tried it with him and about halfway through the Cinebench CPU test my unit blue screened. So I went back and lower the clock speed to 4.6 gHz and voltage to 1.2 and tried again. Everything tested out fine so I played some BF3. About 20 minutes in to BF3 I blue screened again, but it was too late so I went to bed. Today I'm doing some research and this seems like the right place to hang out.

Some background on me, I started PC gaming back in 5th grade. I proceeded to move to consoles as I got older and have had consoles ever since from original Nintendo to the upcoming PS4. I've always wanted to build a PC and loved PC gaming so this August I took the plunge and ordered all the parts. I built the thing by myself using online videos and tutorials and it came out great! Since then, I've been playing more PC games than ever and I love it. This unit has performed flawlessly. I've been playing BF3, Borderlands 2, The Walking Dead an the BF4 beta the last two weeks. I had no reason to want to OC my unit other than the fact that I paid for all these awesome parts, so I feel like I need to do it some justice and speed it up!

I didn't want to post a YT video or anything for my first post, but I do have one of my build with all the parts listed. I figured you guys will want to know what I'm running so you can help me accordingly, so let me know if it's ok to post the video. Otherwise I could probably type everything out if need be! Thanks for any help in advance! thumb.gif

Hi StogeP, welcome to OCN and welcome to my thread. This is actually my first build as well.

 

JJ is a pretty knowledgable (I know I spelled it wrong, but I'm too lazy to spellcheck it on Google since Chrome spellcheck is broken by OCN) guy but his overclocking guides I don't like as much. For example, he always uses cherry-picked CPUs for his demonstrations. If you try to use his voltage/speed as any sort of reference there is a decent chance you will fail. From my statistic on the first page you can tell that the average person barely holds onto 4.6ghz. 4.5/4.6 is the average. Running 4.6ghz on 1.2v Vcore without crashing is pretty rare. On top of that, BF3 is known to be more sensitive to your CPU overclock (I know, awesome coincidence right?)

 

My advice is to start at bit lower than 4.6. 4.0 should be a cakewalk unless you are relatively unlucky. 4.0 ghz, 1.2v, good to go. Should be able to ramp up to x43 pretty easily with uncore at stock. Little struggle but managing 4.4, 4.5 is statistically in your favor. For example, I'm on 4.5ghz right now, which I know is very stable. If I go for 4.6ghz and I crash and worst case it doesn't work out at all, I can retreat to 4.5ghz.

 

One more thing... Cinebench is a bad stability test. It's very easy to pass. If you fail Cinebench, you are not even in the right ballpark in terms of stability. After all the test is like 20 seconds, lol. There are a lot of stress testing options out there... 27.9 Prime is the old version of Prime, the beta version of Prime is a very hot version... IBT and Linpack are absolutely sizzling and overkill IMO. XTU is popular. Aida is ok, easier to pass. I prefer x264 bench, because the temps you get from that is similar to a worst case scenario in real life. The test is also nonsynthetic, meaning your voltage won't implode on adaptive. It mimics a real life workload without making the test too easy to pass. The biggest downfall to x264 is you cannot loop the test.

 

SOMEBODY FIND A WAY TO LOOP IT PLZ.

 

On the bright side, if you do the test 3-5 times and no Bsod, the gods have smiles upon you and you have reached a pretty stable configuration. My guess is that would be enough to tackle BF3 for hours on end.

 

Oh yeah, and chess (stockfish engine) is an easier version of x264. Easier to pass, takes longer to Bsod. And you can loop it.

 

So to recap:

1) Quite likely you are using too low voltage for too high multiplier

2) Your original Cinebench stability test isn't stressful enough to detect all instabilities.

3) You happen to like playing a game that happens to be a half decent stability test, better than Cinebench.

 

Edit:

I see in your rep that this thread caused you to join the site. Cool! Actually, the Catleap Monitor thread caused me to join this thread. Reminds me of that, lol. :cheers: 


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It mimics a real life workload

It is a real life workload! biggrin.gif I started using it in the first place because i was trying to use it every day for livestreaming and encoding videos (if you don't want to fill up like 500GB an hour of your hdd, your videos need to be encoded)

If you want to do a long encode, you probably need to learn command line stuff for x264, or find a frontend for the encoder and just run a long preferably high resolution video file through @ placebo preset, but you might have to mess around with settings to do it. That way you can just get an encode that'll take a day or a week and you can start/stop from scratch with a few clicks, which is nice

Maybe you can loop x264 bench or make it do a bunch more runs by editing the script. I mean, everything it does is just in that little script batch file, you can edit it with notepad. It doesn't seem quite simple enough for me to do without quite some thought though, and it might be way harder for somebody without basic programming knowledge
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Hello Everyone!! I was referred to this thread because.. well I'm a noob with a Haswell smile.gif Been trying to gather as much info as possible to get my OC started, running, and stable! This is only my second build, but my first one was over 7 years ago. Btw, she still runs fine smile.gif Anyhow, this new technology is definately different. There is a lot of pages here.. so I'm hoping to get some good reading outta this. I doubt I'll read all 402 pages tho. So Does anyone here have the same Z87 G45 motherboard i do? As well as the same CPU? If so.. please.. feel free to chime in smile.gif Im going to go read the guides on page 1. Enjoy all smile.gif
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Hello Everyone!! I was referred to this thread because.. well I'm a noob with a Haswell smile.gif Been trying to gather as much info as possible to get my OC started, running, and stable! This is only my second build, but my first one was over 7 years ago. Btw, she still runs fine smile.gif Anyhow, this new technology is definately different. There is a lot of pages here.. so I'm hoping to get some good reading outta this. I doubt I'll read all 402 pages tho. So Does anyone here have the same Z87 G45 motherboard i do? As well as the same CPU? If so.. please.. feel free to chime in smile.gif Im going to go read the guides on page 1. Enjoy all smile.gif

Yup. I have 4670k and G45 gaming mobo. You can check out our components in our siggies.

I wrote this guide with my mobo in mind but tried to get stuff from other mobos as well.

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Yup. I have 4670k and G45 gaming mobo. You can check out our components in our siggies.
I wrote this guide with my mobo in mind but tried to get stuff from other mobos as well.

OOOOO that is awesome! smile.gif I don't suppose I could trouble ya for some screenies or whatnot to show me what I need to do? Not right now or anything.. sometime in the near future smile.gif I won't have time to mess around with it until next weekend frown.gif I'm glad you started this thread.. and to have the same mobo and cpu as me.. just makes it a whole heck of a lot better for me! biggrin.gifthumb.gif
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OOOOO that is awesome! smile.gif I don't suppose I could trouble ya for some screenies or whatnot to show me what I need to do? Not right now or anything.. sometime in the near future smile.gif I won't have time to mess around with it until next weekend frown.gif I'm glad you started this thread.. and to have the same mobo and cpu as me.. just makes it a whole heck of a lot better for me! biggrin.gifthumb.gif

Why can't you just look at the settings I have instead? Which setup in the BIOS is confusing to you?


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Originally Posted by Scotty Mac View Post

OOOOO that is awesome! smile.gif I don't suppose I could trouble ya for some screenies or whatnot to show me what I need to do? Not right now or anything.. sometime in the near future smile.gif I won't have time to mess around with it until next weekend frown.gif I'm glad you started this thread.. and to have the same mobo and cpu as me.. just makes it a whole heck of a lot better for me! biggrin.gifthumb.gif

Dude, i just spent 20 minutes posting a guide on your thread recommending what to do initially along with near enough every BIOS setting you'd need to change specific to your mobo. I'm pretty sure i recommended you read through this thread and another at least twice. Stop asking the same damn questions in various threads on various forums and go do some reading 1st!!!!!!rolleyes.gif I don't know why i bothered to take time out of my day to help you when you can't be bothered to go do some reading/research on your own 1st!.

Not trying to have a pop but if you made a little effort 1st it would go a long way.thumb.gif
Edited by Doug2507 - 10/18/13 at 7:41am
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